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    Nope, the arcs of travel are on different plains...though the Watts linkage has to have heim ends to allow for the minor (1 or 2 degrees) of pinion angle change....With the adjustable front mount points on the upper and lower bars, I should (on paper I can) move the pinion angle to whatever I want...

    My main "concern", and the point of the post is moving the coilovers from behind the rear end to in front of the housing.... Trying to make the shock assist in both the hook of the tires, with valving changes on the shock, and the anti-squat on the rear end with the bar angles and spring rates.... It all looks good on paper when I plot it out, should be interesting, at the least, in a real world application..... Mostly I think I'm just tired of the same old conventional rear bar set-up and trying to make it do some other things I might want it to do.... Guess I've just been watching too many of the late model circle burners with their unique coilover and bar placenment and trying to tame some of that down for a street application.... But then my version of "street" is probably a bit different from most!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Severson View Post
    Nope, the arcs of travel are on different plains...though the Watts linkage has to have heim ends to allow for the minor (1 or 2 degrees) of pinion angle change....With the adjustable front mount points on the upper and lower bars, I should (on paper I can) move the pinion angle to whatever I want...

    My main "concern", and the point of the post is moving the coilovers from behind the rear end to in front of the housing.... Mostly I think I'm just tired of the same old conventional rear bar set-up and trying to make it do some other things I might want it to do.... But then my version of "street" is probably a bit different from most!!!!!!!!
    I'll mull over the arc of travel for now. I guess with 5 inch travel you may get away with it! How about a staggered shock arrangement? 1 in front and 1 to the rear of the axle. If I remember right, back in the early 70's the big 3 (Don't remember who did it first) figured out that staggering the shocks was a great (CHEAP) way to control wrap-up and axle torque. Even if it didn't work that great in the maro - it would be different!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 34_40 View Post
    I'll mull over the arc of travel for now. I guess with 5 inch travel you may get away with it! How about a staggered shock arrangement? 1 in front and 1 to the rear of the axle. If I remember right, back in the early 70's the big 3 (Don't remember who did it first) figured out that staggering the shocks was a great (CHEAP) way to control wrap-up and axle torque. Even if it didn't work that great in the maro - it would be different!
    They did that on leaf spring cars to help control spring wrap up.
    Before the advent of UMP modifieds running birdcage setups on their rear axles as they do now,we use to see a lot of staggerd shock setups with the left side spring and slider on the front side and the shock on the back side and vise versa on the right side. Don't know for sure what their doing nowdays other than looking like their gonna turn over,just like the Latemodels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HWORRELL View Post
    They did that on leaf spring cars to help control spring wrap up.
    Before the advent of UMP modifieds running birdcage setups on their rear axles as they do now,we use to see a lot of staggerd shock setups with the left side spring and slider on the front side and the shock on the back side and vise versa on the right side. Don't know for sure what their doing nowdays other than looking like their gonna turn over,just like the Latemodels.
    Yep, that's what I said! Must be an echo !! It would be different to see a coil over setup arranged like this. Not sure how useful tho??

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