Thanks Streets for all the links. Your as fast as always. Still didn't find the answer I needed. My application is to run an i-beam axle in front of the spring. I know that you can weld a tab on the wishbone or hairpin to mount the spring shackle for leaf springs, but is this the best way and location. I have also send some fabricated s.s. brackets that clamp to the hairpins that mount the spring shackle. I didn't really think that welding on the axle was a wise choice even though (or because) I'm a journeyman weldor. I would appreciate any help. Thanks, Tim