Thanx for the info....... I found the problem though..... The guy put in the wrong dipstick it was too long, It was curled up and the crank was tapping it on rotation, It was almost out of oil also, not allowing the lifters to pump up properly..... As far as what I said I was just joking, but hey if you can't take a joke them don't give one...... by the way how I found it was on another website, I had four diffrent people reply 3 of the 4 hit just about on the money... That tells me that someone-else IQ is in the double digits "Not yours"....... I really appreciate you trying to help me though..... This should be good info though for the next Johnson rod person that ask a question like this...... Mr. moderator if you look at this please send me a PM telling me how to unsubscribe....... I'm not sure how to, and from the advice Streak "I mean Street" and Inline give they may just have tring to do something to mess up my computer and/or my engine, while they are playing with thier jonhson Rods.... Thanx again Lv2spd for taking the time to help......