Yup, that old stuff was a mess!!!! Think I still have some 250 grit up in the cabinet!!!!! I really like using the hook and loop on an inline or a longboard as you don't have to peel it off and throw it away when it's only half used up cuz you need to go to a finer grit.... Being the cheap Norwegian that I am, I even trim a used 6" hook and loop paper and use it on my 3" DA. Works great on jambs and small parts!