This is the regulator I use when tig welding tubing or other things that need to be backside purged
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This is the regulator I use when tig welding tubing or other things that need to be backside purged
Ok. That's slick. Is that the Smith regulator Jerry?
David
I don't remember--I got it from TigDepot and I think Lincoln or someone else also has one now--I use the air hose disconnect to the tubing plug and run the secong argon hose thru the water valve on my welder so it only adds argon when welder is triggered--My torch cooler runs full time so that let me use the H2O valve instead of a free flowing stream of argon--much cheaper that way
I have some friends that use a second bottle and regulator and just let the gas flow--that is more expensive than a strip bar
Went and looked---Gentec regulator---it is basicly just a standard regulator with a tee and two flow meters--
what allows its use is using the water valve on the welding machine to control on/off of the second hose
Nice setup!!! Thanks for the info, sure beats my Mickey Mouse setup!!!!!!:o:o:o
Hey Jerry, and the rest of the TIGgers-- what filler rod do you use with moly?????
1/16 and 3/32!!!!!!
I think its er70s2 ????? maybe
Dave,Quote:
Originally Posted by jerry clayton
I'm not TIG proficient, but I looked at some data and it supports what Jerry said dead on,
Quote:
For example, more rigid welds would be best made with an ER80S-D2 classification filler rod (due to its higher tensile strength), while an ER70S-2 classification filler rod would be better suited for welds requiring more flexibility or ductility.
Oh poo. I don't have the torch cooler. It's a cheap (yeah right :eek:) hobby version Miller TIG. It does have the foot pedal but I'm not sure how I'd incorporate that into a switchable on /off valve. I'll do some digging. Maybe switch a simple gas valve from the relay for the foot pedal. Very interesting.
David
or maybe a toggle switch on the torch going to the control valve????Quote:
Originally Posted by Stovebolter
I don't under stand, I would probably have to see the set up working or a diagram of how it works.
But I am not a tig welder either, that will be my next machine though.
My biggest problem is remembering to put on my steel toe boots, the little
beads of hot metal hurt when they go thru the tops of your tennis shoe's!!!
HE! HE! Kurt
i had a snap on scratch start i you did heat control on the machine DC only not to good , my other machines had a foot pedal this is ok but not to good for over head . i have heat control on the torch head i had air cold torch for many years i was running tap water threw my liquid torch . but now i have the cooler set up now work s the same air cold torch is abit bigger for the amps you can see my machine to the left :)
i weld tig all the time no sparks from tig... Zero .... before some smart ass starts any thing about my mishap :) .i was running a 7018 1/4 rod @ 250 amps yes they throw sparks :(
here's some of the machine and how hoses are hooked up
Oh--a welding test from 1960s ---
Here you can see front of the machine I use with this system
then close up of lower front panel which identifies whats behind the cover
Two red lines are the purge circuit I have plumbed thru the water valve
Yellow grd lead
small black hose argon gas out of valve to torch head
bigger black hose is argon supply from tank
power lug with water cooling line hooked to lead(the welding lead is copper cable inside a hose with water running thru it to torch head(cools cable and torch handle/head)
How do you like the Coolmate 3 Jerry???? Not sure I would ever be tiggin' enough to justify water cooled---or do I just not know what all the water cooling does?????
some more from around the welder---more pics of that FAA test and a can of solar flux Pat spoke about--
some of the various wires--steel, alum, stainless, inconel, titaniam
Help a rookie understand. What exactly is the water cooling?
start of a manifold about 1980????
Dave and Roger----water cooling allows a much smaller torch head for getting into some really tight corners--you can run 200+ amps thru a torch head about the size of a ball point pin
OK, thanks Jerry!!!! Well worth the extra $$$$$ then! Thanks!!
that why you just hook the torch up to main water tap . still be doing it but somone would shut off the valve or i for get the water was on then where was a mess on the shop floor or the line would freeze i like the smaller torch head with water when i inside welding a head portsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave Severson
I never do any welding in ports or anything, but I can certainly see where it would be nice to run one of the smaller torches!!!! Would make doing detail work and small pieces a lot easier to do with better resultz!!!!!
torch head is liquid cooled not water but you can use water must be flowing thru torch or or can burn it up. you have a in and out line and past 250 amps water get so hot i have melted the lines . the torch head with alcolol thru a cooler tower works abit better then just water
So the coolant flows through the torch, keeping it cool with higher power levels, yielding a smaller, more versitile torch? Super cool!!Quote:
Originally Posted by jerry clayton
I added a couple edit comments about what was in the pics---
Dave--also some of the small torch heads you can twist around the shape and angle of the tip/nozzle
Romeo Palimedes have a straight inline torch that looked like a fountain pin--Miss seeing him---
I also have a on/off switch saddled to my torch to control the welder for like I'm twisted up inside a car doing a roll cage or such--too old to still be able to twist my leg around and step on the pedal---there is also one that has amp control-I think thats what Pat mentioned--I took it off as it sorta clicked when I pushed it and I would stick the tunsten--I think they have a rotary one now that that probably wouldn't happen with.
I use an antifreeze solution in mine---won't freeze and works good--sometimes the city water line would boil
intake yep welded up one in one day
Attachment 53065intake yep welded up one in one day not looking to do any more in just one day:D
Yeah, I've tried one with the thumb control, friend of man has it on his. My hands are just a bit too crippled up to be able to use it anymore, guess I'll have to stick with the foot pedal.... Lack of mobility, decreased range of motion are the two main reasons I'm going to build the new rotisserie with a hydraulic motor to rotate it remotely, easier for me to turn the car into position rather then try to turn my body into position!!!!!
i hear cheap vodka work for coolant and you can tap in to it if you like it warm to very hot could run it past a super chiller
Now look guys---I don't want any of you to get the idea that I'm one of those great welders like Pat and all those others--I'm just a old farm boy that has done some welding on things over the years , however , I never worked as a welder and it is one of the things I wish I could do better(all them nice rows of weld ripples) I have had the support of some of the best in the world to answer my questions and give me guidance---I have tacked many things and took them to some of those guys who have then welded them up.
My biggest claim as a welder is that one of the machines I had was used to weld up some of the stuff in the space program and somes in museums and some got left on the moon!!!
Pat the reason we beat the Russians to the moon is because the welders got drunk drinking the vodka!!!!!!!!!!
come on jerry just having some fun with this i not the best far from it but i can make it work and some times make it look nice. i have the same thing dave has Firbo and some bad disc so i never can get to the point were i not jumping from the pain you have to be dead still for nice welds. i had one doc that was feeding me so many pills that i just flowed in to the chair when i welded .but the junk he was feeding me was eatting a hole in my guts
I have had a lot of fun because of things I have welded up --sometimes it was just to patch a hold in somebodies combine and the welding rod used was some coat hangers or a piece of wire cut off a fence--Welding certainly has enabled some creative things in history and even today with all the billet one piec cnc objects there is still a lot of welding---pipelines, bridges, etc
Hey ---that solar flux does take alcohol, doesn't it???
yes it will need alcohol it not that geat to mix abit like mud hey you want to see my welding??? :) here my watch dog and junk i hot glue together and the banjo playerQuote:
Originally Posted by jerry clayton
Heck, I'd know him anywhere!!! That's Benny the Banjo Man!!!! Saw him on Ed Sullivan Sunday night!!!! I had no idea he lived in your shop, Pat!
How about a Spider??
Attachment 53079
We have a good friend who taught developmentally challenged kids for more than 40 years, and she kept a pet tarantula in her classroom for many, many years. I decided she needed a more docile version to keep her company....
The WHO ...is that .. Boris the spider ???
I think you guys are starting something--maybe we should start a contest to see who can make the best art??? In these times it would be a lot cheaper than a hotrod---sorta like the 3 word thread----
that dog is made out of a auto lite plug just screwing around used allen bolts for eyes. steel stamp valve locks for ears some crank keys and lock washer for a tail and a rocker ball for a butt.i tried to base it off a pug dog but need a short plug for a body . was thinking i could make more money then boring blocks .... but i will be boring blocks tomorrow :)
well at least I now know what I can do with some of these valve springs and spark plugs, maybe even a couple hundred middle main caps--
If I only could get a vision for coi over springs and maybe camshafts, ring and pinion gears
i have some stuff coming i may do with bent valves and crank gears . not many main caps i want to burn on but i have about 25 pound of piston pin i did not scrap out hell...... Jerry go for it.. hey did i tell you i did get a D in art in school :)
The hobby TIG I bought (Miller Diversion 180) has the foot control which cuts off the torch control when it's plugged in. If using the torch it has the thumb wheel. After talking to a couple local welders they all lead me toward this machine. Said it was perfect for a newbie like me.
If I was to use Solar Flux, how would I get it way back in a tube? Does it clean out easy when your done?
I played around on sme tubing scraps tonight and was surprised how little build up was on the back of the weld without purging. No filler rod. I even left a couple 1/16 gaps intentionally. Had to use the filler rod though and there was some build up behind the weld. I assume I got the amperage spot on? If I turned up the amperage I'd have more build up? I'll mess with it some more next day or two to get the hang of things. Man I love this thing for thin metal! Wow!
David
