Thanks guys for the responses! I knew I would get good information here! I found a Miller 211 on Craig's list" new in the box unopened" for $800.00. It's about 4 and a half hours south of me but one of my sons is only a couple of hours from it. My concern is wether or not it is a scam. I don't want to send him into trouble. I will see if I can contact the guy. It's a shame we have to worry about this stuff.