I need an extra floor jack, so I'll stop by HF. Thanks for the heads up, Steve. I know some people say their stuff is crap, and some is, but other items there are fine, and the floor jacks are actually pretty good. No matter what floor jack we buy, they all start leaking after a while, even the expensive Sears jack we have. We've taken two back so far, and the 3rd one is leaking and is going back this week as it is slowly letting the car down under load.

Don