[QUOTE=1gary;391558]Yepper guys,I know full well what a bad back is all about.I took a careen ending fall on the base of my spine crushing one of my dics at the GM engine plant at Tonn,NY.I have lived with that almost my whole life.(happened when I was only in my early 20's and I am now 62 yrs old)

Just exactly how many dics did you have anyway?