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How the heck does this thing werk?
I want to make a Waldon's style roof insert for my 30 sedan, but at $1800, I figured I'd buy a wheel and try to do it myself.
Metalmeet has been down for a while, and doesn't seem as though it will be back soon so I'm pounding the internet pavement looking for guidance.
here's what I got, a 28", 16 ga Baileigh English wheel
what I hope to make with it.
That $1800 might seem like a good deal in a few weeks :LOL::LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by STREETWERKZ
I don't doubt it, already got a pinched finger, and busted knuckle :LOL:
Hungry lil sucker ain't it!!!!!
Ron
I'm going to do mine probably next month. I have a few other things to do first. I'm going to make mine in two pieces instead of one sheet. I think it will be a little easier to manage.
Ken
Like Jesse James said, "English wheels are great for making blood squirt out from under your fingernails!" :eek::eek::D
Don
them drive grears on the bead rollers are great to make pee run down your leg to:CRY:
Looks like you have a good selection of rollers. Try a few different ones to get the radius you want, have some help on the other end of the sheet, then just start practicing!!!! Then, you'll have to have a planishing hammer, too!!!!!!
Sounds like the voice of experience Pat. :LOL::LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by pat mccarthy
Don
yep i have big throat bead roller sits under my welding table . i like to take it out time to time to take nice pic of sheet metal that you work on all day then turns it to trash in seconds flat . when your old friend likes the speed up when your working a bend as you are holding and steering the panle tru the rollers . so you get bend out of shape... kicking him off driving job.. then your steer and run the panle tru your self along with that skin web part your hand that hook to you r thumb thru the drive gears . Bead roller . look it up in the dictionary 1 a tool used to turn sheet metal to trash .2 a mid evil tool used time to time to kill a old freinds . 3 a mid evli device used to get anyone to say any thing as there skin gets runned thru the gears:3dSMILE:
Government should try those instead of waterboarding
I know someone that used to werk at Walden's, and he says they are 2 pieces wheeled, welded, then hammered (darn, now I have to buy another tool:D), then re wheeled.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Thurm
I'm not sure I can count on much more help than that from him however, so I'm approaching learning as if I'm on my own.
Don, not so much squirting as rapid drips, but I ain't done yet :LOL:
agreed bead rollers are not always ones friend either :eek:
whats funny about our bead roller is my kids scrap more good material on that sucker that I'd care to admit since they were 8 or 9, never have gotten hurt. Man kids are super smart, and follow directions so well... adults however not so much all the time:LOL:
Sitting here with two broken fingers that thing makes me cringe looking at it. :LOL: But $1800 is a lot of cola - IMO. What would the panel cost to have done for you? (aside from completely stripping you of the 'wow I did it myself feeling')
I called Marcel, the guy who made a lot if Boyd's bodies, they want $3,000 to make and install. Without looking at it, it could be less after he sees it. I'm going over there next week just to see what it would be.
Ken
Ken, I have seen some of their werk, it's top notch, no doubt.
I'm sure for the time involved it's every bit worth it.
Gretsch, E wheel is just one of the many bazillion things to learn on my bucket list.
is there a name for that web between your first finger and thumb, because i cannot handle sheet metal without cutting myself there, last year i reached to lift up my welding hood and forgot i had a glowing tig rod still in my hand. i some how managed to put the HOT end inside my ear in the process, i could hear it sizzling before it started hurting, sheet metal tools and equipment are rough be careful guys
had not one thing to do with direction:HMMM: it was a 5 buy 3 foot pic of alum for the back of a dual turbo v6 850 hp+ BAD ASS liquid to air inter cooled Co2 air shifted liberty 5 speed buick grand national that was all VFN glass but the rear clip. can you say alot of work ... did all the tin and down tubes. custom glass and body and paint work had over 24+ hours in just the custom hood with no paint the car was black and we black out the side quarter glass. as the drive had some ..set back .. so i made up the alum side panels and ran some bead work in to them . so if you can hand crank and run a 5 by 3 alum all by your self ?like i did:D i love to watch:LOL:i did both of them by my self .i did catch my hand in it . as for hot steel in the ears i have had that happen to many times . when i welded rockers on at the body shop some times they bit back .the last time took along time to get my one ear to work good .i must of been low on ear wax that day .smelled like someone was cooking pork :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by STREETWERKZ
I was referring to myself not following the directions :)
you know, I taught my girls how to use it, and what to never do cause it will hurt you.... then do it when they aren't around
Ahh, weld splatter, not sure which is better, in the ear, boot or glove?
all three make ya dance lol
Yup,they hurt,but not as much as a small molten piece rolling down inside your pants and burning thru your undies and scorching the family jewels....:eek:Now that hurts...**) Every one,take an involuntary breath in...:LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by STREETWERKZ
ever have to pee bad when spreading body filler. find out you had some filler on your hands . now its kicking off :eek:you want to talk about a hot head. i burt my eye were small pieces hot steel rolls off your eye ball then burns a small spot in the white part of your eye**) i have had that happen way to many timesQuote:
Originally Posted by lamin8r
i have a wheel also , it stands in the corner unused . i have had classes on using it and still i have alot of trouble . it takes atleast 2 persons to hold the sheet of metal to form a roof skin and it will take you 2-3 days to wheel it out .
first thing i would look for would be roof off another car to cut off and use as a template or use on your car then learn on something small first . if i remember correct is that not the same crown as a 57 ford 4 dr sedan ?
The roof insert in my coupe [32 Essex Terraplane] is the back 3/4 of a 59 chevy 4-dr roof. I've also used a 55 chevy wagon roof to make a deck-lid and fill the roof on a 31 Dodge coupe. The lower deck panel in my coupe was made from the very rear section of a 55 Pontiac 4-dr Ht roof, and the fire wall was made from the recess on a 58 ford deck lid. lots of good tin can be cut out of old cars and still be used, make a cardboard template of all the radius' you need and tear out to the junk yard!