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    How many El Camino specialists do we have in here?

     



    Just bought my son a 65 Elky and have a few questions relating to this machine.

    I have never....repeat never removed trim from a 60's car or truck. Going to get started prepping for paint next week. Any advice on where to start? The correct tool? Start at the corner pieces? Can I assume I will need to replace the clips or springs to put the trim back on? Can I assume its a 'feel your way' when putting the trim back on. Learn from mistakes as you go?

    I have to find the trim for the top of the bed on one side. Any suggestions or recommendations for parts vendors for the Elky's?

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    I've painted several cars but believe it or not....never had to deal with trim. Always been afraid of trim. Always had a nasty habit of shaving the trim off of my vehicles......not going to do that to this machine. Going to make it appear as original as possible.
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    Surely there some Elky folks on here?
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    Well I may not be an Elky specialist, but after 7 years of rebuilding a '69 SS I just might be as close as you get.

    With regard to the trim, it seems to me to come off easier than it goes on.

    I just got finished putting the bed trim on mine and the drivers side will just not sit right. The pax side is solid as they come, but I've got to figure out what to do with the drivers side.

    Wheel trim involved drilling holes in the sheet metal (which was new in 50% of the wells). Watch out for the trim! As the night that I was doing that task wore on, I kept adding scotch to my empty glass...My last trim installed I left the drill on reverse and tried to drill a hole through the partially mounted trim piece.

    Yup, I tore that nice piece of aluminum all up.

    Lesson learned (again), keep the scotch away from power tools!

    With regard to places to find parts, OPGI (oringinal parts group inc) has a dedicated catalog (hard copy and online) that has worked well for me. They also give some credit if you are buying a lot of parts (through a point system based on the total order).

    www.elcaminostore.com also has a good selection, but opgi got the most of my business.

    Good luck and keep writing! I've got to run to some meetings, but I'll check back soon!
    ...at least I'm enjoying the ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Rod Surfer View Post
    Well I may not be an Elky specialist, but after 7 years of rebuilding a '69 SS I just might be as close as you get.

    With regard to the trim, it seems to me to come off easier than it goes on.

    I just got finished putting the bed trim on mine and the drivers side will just not sit right. The pax side is solid as they come, but I've got to figure out what to do with the drivers side.

    Wheel trim involved drilling holes in the sheet metal (which was new in 50% of the wells). Watch out for the trim! As the night that I was doing that task wore on, I kept adding scotch to my empty glass...My last trim installed I left the drill on reverse and tried to drill a hole through the partially mounted trim piece.

    Yup, I tore that nice piece of aluminum all up.

    Lesson learned (again), keep the scotch away from power tools!

    With regard to places to find parts, OPGI (oringinal parts group inc) has a dedicated catalog (hard copy and online) that has worked well for me. They also give some credit if you are buying a lot of parts (through a point system based on the total order).

    www.elcaminostore.com also has a good selection, but opgi got the most of my business.

    Good luck and keep writing! I've got to run to some meetings, but I'll check back soon!

    LOL's. So I need to add...."Leave beer in fridge" to my method of procedure before starting. Check. Got it. LOL's.

    Well thank you much! I will look these guys up. I found the El Camino Store....just having trouble figuring out what is what in line of trim. I'll figure it out though. Bet that'll be a sweet ride you have there. My son has been walking around in "Wonderland" ever since he found out I bought him the Elky. Grins from ear to ear.

    Again. Thanks.

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    I did a 65 elky several years back.. As I recall that top trim is retained by some goofy hook type things that make it easy to install but it's a bear to take off.They snap over the pinch weld and hook into the molding.The key word is "patience" if you want to re use them..I would start at one end and gradually work inside and outside..If you start at the back you might be able to slide it off once you get a couple of them loose..A lubricant might help but that could play havoc with your paint stuff later on...Hope some of this helps.. I used a hook tool a lot and you might be able to use one of those "wiggler" things made for windshield moldings
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daffy427 View Post
    I did a 65 elky several years back.. As I recall that top trim is retained by some goofy hook type things that make it easy to install but it's a bear to take off.They snap over the pinch weld and hook into the molding.The key word is "patience" if you want to re use them..I would start at one end and gradually work inside and outside..If you start at the back you might be able to slide it off once you get a couple of them loose..A lubricant might help but that could play havoc with your paint stuff later on...Hope some of this helps
    Yes. Thanks so much. It does help. Now I at least have a mental picture of whats under there! Really appreciate the help!

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    I would be very careful pulling it off. You want to save as much as you can, as the repop stuff just never seems to fit like it should. Just take your time amd slowly wiggle the bed molding off. I'm no expert on 65's but I think the back of cab trim is held on ith nuts wich you have to pull the headlined down to access. At least it was on my 67. But most of the trim is held in place with spring clips and is a real bear to remove.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67elkybryan View Post
    I would be very careful pulling it off. You want to save as much as you can, as the repop stuff just never seems to fit like it should. Just take your time amd slowly wiggle the bed molding off. I'm no expert on 65's but I think the back of cab trim is held on ith nuts wich you have to pull the headlined down to access. At least it was on my 67. But most of the trim is held in place with spring clips and is a real bear to remove.
    LOL's. Youve put me back in "lack of confidence" mode. Naugh. Just teasing. Thanks for the insight! Now if the trim on the back of the cab doesnt seem to come loose....then I'll now I have to head to the interior to look for those screws. I cant tell you how much I appreciate this information. I wouldve probably got frustrated and messed it all up trying to get it off.

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    Bear in mind in my case it's been over ten years and many beers since I did that el camino...
    I remember when hot rods were all home made.

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    The 65 bed trim must be similar to the 69 cuz that sounds like mine. The idea of a windshield tool (plastic) is a great idea for removal. 67elky is also right by mentioning that the new gear may leave something to be desired. Save the originals!

    But have faith Stovebolter, you'll get it done. And make sure you get your son in there with you!

    Enjoy the journey!
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    Stovebolter, in the inside of bed on the rear corners,are panels ,remove those
    and you will be able to get to the chrome bed corners,get putty knife and lift
    the bed rails just enough to spray WD every 6or8 inches,on both sides,
    they will slide out the back,that way you don't mess up the clips and reuse them..the chrome on the top are held buy bolt so you do have to remove
    the rear of the headliner,if you use a steamer if will losen the glue enough
    that you can carefully peel it back,, James..

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    Well thank you everyone. You've save me some grief I assure you. I'll be careful and take my time.....saving the trim. I'm guessing this stuff can be sent to be re-chromed? Assume its all aluminum with a chrome finish.

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    It's probably stainless and would likely buff out. Sorry about not being more help, your generation El Camino is the only one I haven't owned LOL.
    I've NEVER seen a car come from the factory that couldn't be improved.....

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    Get your self a factory assembly manual, Do a search on e-bay for 65 el camino under parts and assories. All the trim is either bolts or clips. None of it is really difficult to remove. You will find all the parts you need on e-bay, and the el camino store. Factory originals are the best. Your trim is the same for the bed, back and front window and drip rails for 65, 66, and 67 el caminos. The hardest pieces to remove is the drip over the door and the door trim which is friction fit. Have fun and keep your frustration level low.

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