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10-03-2008 11:49 AM #1
Pros/cons on Power Brakes and Steering
When building a lightweight car such as a highboy, what are the pros & cons of using power brakes and power steering? I see power brake boosters and power steering racks used on these cars and wonder why/when they are necessary. What criteria are used to determine when to use either when planning a build project? TIA
Mike
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10-03-2008 01:25 PM #2
I personally do not like power brakes on any car. And cars that were originally made without power steering, ive never had a problem with, so imo i think you would be fine without them, but its up to you on how you like the car to feel.
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10-03-2008 02:00 PM #3
The weight of the car makes the difference. In my opinion, a lightweight early car drives just fine with an "armstrong" steering box and manual brakes, as long as the master cylinder and pedal ratio are appropriately sized for the system. A power brake system might use a 4:1 ratio, while a manual system might use a 6:1 or 7:1 ratio. An aftermarket pedal/support/master arrangement with an adjustable bias bar and two masters will allow you to dial the system in to a gnat's eyelash. Use a residual valve in the line to the rear if using drums on the rear to keep the shoes pushed out against the springs a little.PLANET EARTH, INSANE ASYLUM FOR THE UNIVERSE.
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10-03-2008 04:56 PM #4
I had neither power brakes or power steering in a full-fendered, all-steel '30 big block A-Bone. (Photo in my gallery). It steered and stopped just fine.
No PS/PB in my '34 lowboy either. Steers fine. Brakes fine. If your MC is below the floorboards, you need residual pressure valves in both front and rear, and a proportioning valve may work if you don't have room for the dual MC that Richard suggested.Jack
Gone to Texas
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10-04-2008 03:12 PM #5
not a street rod but my nova is still armstrong with manual brakes steers, and stops fine after i put a dual resivoir master cylinder on it. still manual brakes to. 4 wheel drums
I saw last night on fb about John. The world sure lost a great one. I'm going to miss his humor, advice, and perspective from another portion of the world. Rest in Peace Johnboy.
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