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    Don,
    May I be the first to offer congratulations on this giant step

    Heck, if you can put a computer together you sure can do this. I do hope that the wiring system has a good set of instructions or at least some sort of a schematic.

    I'm not sure that I can get good photos of my under engine wiring where it is as my camera wont focus that close but sometime after next week I might have some more free time. My "free" time is being taken by working on a US Congressional candidates election campaign trying to overthrow an incumbent who is very well funded(we appear to be leading).

    More later.
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    IC2, By coincidence there is another recent thread by Stu Cool about hiding the wires in the frame so maybe that is the solution for me, I'll give it a try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Shillady
    IC2, By coincidence there is another recent thread by Stu Cool about hiding the wires in the frame so maybe that is the solution for me, I'll give it a try.

    Don Shillady
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    Don - I considered that but since I wasn't astute enough to provide access to the fully boxed and powder coated frame while building the chassis am resigned to just laying the wires on the floor with a protective cover - and it's doubly "interesting" since my AAW module is behind the passenger's seat in a separate compartment. For sure not one of my better ideas!!!
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    LOL's. You guys are making me nervous as Scrat (the prehistoric squirrel in Ice Age). I love that little guy.

    I love wiring......did all the wiring in my 1rst and 2nd home.....do equiment (DSLAM's, ATM, IGX, Mux Shelves, fiber terms...you get the idea) installs at work....but I worry about the pain involved with wiring my 36. LOL's.

    I set mine up to hide in the frame behind the boxing plates. I double stacked conduit between 4X4 electrical outlet boxes and different points along the frame and bore a 1 5/8" hole at each point I thought I would need an exit. Will cover with a nice little aluminum cover. Really, I'm excited that I'm starting to worry about it. Thats means I'm getting closer I guess.

    I want to say to both of you (Don and Dave).....your inspiring me to keep going.

    Denny....have you ever tried the expandable flex? This stuff looks awesome whether you have it stuffed full or just a couple of wires. I use this stuff all of the time at work. Just thought I'd mention it too. http://www.cableorganizer.com/braided-sleeving/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stovebolter
    LOL's. You guys are making me nervous as Scrat (the prehistoric squirrel in Ice Age). I love that little guy.

    I love wiring......did all the wiring in my 1rst and 2nd home.....do equiment (DSLAM's, ATM, IGX, Mux Shelves, fiber terms...you get the idea) installs at work....but I worry about the pain involved with wiring my 36. LOL's.

    I set mine up to hide in the frame behind the boxing plates. I double stacked conduit between 4X4 electrical outlet boxes and different points along the frame and bore a 1 5/8" hole at each point I thought I would need an exit. Will cover with a nice little aluminum cover. Really, I'm excited that I'm starting to worry about it. Thats means I'm getting closer I guess.

    I want to say to both of you (Don and Dave).....your inspiring me to keep going.

    Dave G

    Denny....have you ever tried the expandable flex? This stuff looks awesome whether you have it stuffed full or just a couple of wires. I use this stuff all of the time at work. Just thought I'd mention it too. http://www.cableorganizer.com/braided-sleeving/

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    Dave G - What you are doing is what I should have done - that is if I had had any idea how many wires are terminated at the module. In my thinking errors I forgot that wires from a switch went back to the module then back to the device. The American Autowire system that I have is really very straight forward with excellent drawings and directions but the fact that it's behind the passenger seat makes for a lot of very long (in automotive terms) conductors. It may come down to the fact that I will need to get some connectors, figure out a way without pulling the body again to make some holes in the frame and run them that way - but at this point, it's a later mod.

    As far as oher personal wiring experience, I've totally rewired one house, made major mods on another and have redone most of this current house after the previous owner, an electrical engineer screwed up many areas (I'm a mechanical ). I've also sucessfully done 2 cars completely.

    This has been a fun thread - a lot is my griping just to get it off my mind and out where others can "work me over" so I hope that it's inspiring to others. I'm almost done - delayed by some outside activities, a few honey do's and other interesting things
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    Hi, the garage is getting colder day by day and I have been reading this thread for help noting the early entries are from hot months. Today instead of actually working on the car (which I may do this afternoon) I am trying to get into the mood for frustration with the wiring so here are a few pictures. First, I am pleased with the tail light LED kits I got from Bratton's. I can test things with a small 1 amp trickle charger which I plan to use more often as suggested by C9X. That way I can test circuits without frying the whole system with the full battery. I am getting to know a guy named "Rick" at TPI who has been very helpful and usually right. He did say, however, that cigar lighters were hard to find but as some of you suggested (NTFDAY?) Advanced Auto had one for $3.79 but I let my order to Whitney ride and what I got from them was more expensive and came to $13 when shipping was added. However, the Whitney cigar lighter came with a chrome plated mount which looks pretty good so I may use that one instead of the very minimal unit from Advanced. The rear LED units from Brattons are simple replacements with connectors to fit into the Model A teacup units like bulbs but they are totally incased in plastic for moisture protection. The first picture shows the tailight in the daylight with the brake light on, looks good to me! At night they light up the whole rear half of the garage! Then I did some research on where to get the flasher units for LEDs and "TPI-Rick" gave me the phone number for Technologic in N.C. (812-265-0062). The tech guy at Technologic said the LED units I have are probably for restorers as made in China but Technologic does have the proper two prong flasher units for them so I ordered two of them. TPI-Rick said the three prong units get hot when used with the emergency flasher so it is better to have two flashers, one for the turn signals and the other for the emergency flasher. I also chatted with "Clark" at Speedway but I am satisfied that the Technologic units will solve the flasher problem to use with LEDS front and rear. The second picture shows the present situation with the next step to figure out how to route and hide the wires to the front lights. With full fenders I may just run the wires on the outside of the driver side of the frame and be done with it, hoping that the fourbars will protect the wires exposed up on the frame but I will encase the wires in a spiral plastic cover. The "front bundle" is large because I have not attached wires to the choke, coil or tach; one wire intended for an electric fan will not be needed. I have totally given up on any fleeting plans for a show car and now just hope to get a safe car that runs! Any of you who "love wiring" are welcome to drop in and help but I think I will just have to plod on slowly.

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    DennyW, good to hear from you! The PET cover looks like you have to slide it on before you connect the wires while the spiral stuff can be added after the connections are made?

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    That is an unfortunate drawback....but they look real clean with the PET cover. We use them here in the central office on transport equipment and such. Real clean....very very flexible.

    Denny,

    Do you know of a site that sells the GM factory oiltite plugs...like the LS will have on the engine harness. I saw a site a long time ago and cant find it now.

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    BTW Don. That car sure is perty! Cant wait til I get some color on mine.

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    Yes. Thank you so much Denny. I wasnt sure what they were called so I was having a time searching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stovebolter
    Do you know of a site that sells the GM factory oiltite plugs...like the LS will have on the engine harness. I saw a site a long time ago and cant find it now.

    Thanks,
    Dave G
    Dave, a great, easy to assemble/disassemble connector to use for a weather/oil resistant seal is the Deutsch connector. This is the type connector Ken Thurm used on his wiring, I asked him. I became familiar with them working on Harleys. I get my supplies from Batts Racing, http://www.deutschconnector.com/ Once you crimp the terminal on the wire (you will need a Deutsch crimper, but Summit has a great one), these are the easiest to build connectors I've ever worked with and if a repair is necessary, the individual wires can be very easily removed. I'm sure you can find other sources by doing a Google search for Deutsch connector. Hope this helps.

    Mike

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