Thanks Treekiller, I'll look into those, it would be so much easier than trying to trace things with the mouse. I have also played with replace color, which works good if it is a light color car. the thing that is killing me right now is the fenders on the Effie are black, so having a heck of a time converting them to brown. played with it a bit more last night. this I selected the area then made a new layer, desaturated and then changed color on. there are a few ways i guess, depends on situation.

If you have any tips on killing the black and recoloring to chocolate brown I'd love to hear them.

Thanks.

Red