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03-27-2007 01:06 PM #1
New pinion and ring installation
I went out and got everything new except the carier bearings and spider gears beacuse they look brand new.I am going to install the pinion with the honed out bearing and then the carier to determine gear miter and back lash as Denny suggested.I am also going to clean the housing out real good first,I also have new axel bearings and seals .
Everything sound good soo far ?I have never done this before so any info is a confidence builder at this point.
The gears are 4.11:1 richmond sportsman gears.
I will be posting pics of the gear miter also when its installed to get your guys opinions.Its gunna take longer than u thought and its gunna cost more too(plan ahead!)
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03-28-2007 08:30 AM #2
Thnx,I think its going good soo far!!Got a good brush and swabed it out like a cannon barrelWith soap and water.
Refurbished the drive line with new u-joints and carrier bearing.
I am going to install the pinion with the fancy honed out bearingand the the carrier to determine where I am at today.........Here are some progress pics.
Its gunna take longer than u thought and its gunna cost more too(plan ahead!)
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03-28-2007 08:36 AM #3
More progress!!!Its gunna take longer than u thought and its gunna cost more too(plan ahead!)
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03-28-2007 05:39 PM #4
Today ,I had the grind down some burs where the race shoulders are inside the rear end case {seems previous repairer dinged em pretty good and the race was not seated}which means starting all over with the cleaning process.
Then I was able to install the front and rear race with the help from step dads tools,a hydraulic bearing installer makes life easy as 1,2,3, and they were in!!!I also was able to remove and re-install the ring on the carrier and install the pinion in the rear end.
I cant even imagine how much more difficult it would have been with out a slide puller and the hydraulic installer!!Its gunna take longer than u thought and its gunna cost more too(plan ahead!)
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03-28-2007 05:44 PM #5
I saved the best 2 for last,...the torque wrench and the hydraulic bearing installer!!!The torque wrench is older than my truck ...but was checked about 6 months ago wrench to wrench with the most exspensive torque wrench in town and it was within 1/2 lb of perfectIts gunna take longer than u thought and its gunna cost more too(plan ahead!)
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03-28-2007 07:35 PM #6
Nice - don't forget the assembly photosThere is no limit to what a man can do . . . if he doesn't mind who gets the credit. (Ronald Reagan)
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03-29-2007 05:09 PM #7
This is a very good post. I only replaced a ring and pinion gear twice in my life. The first time, in a 1956 Ford pickup, and the damned rearend howled like a wolf from then untill I sold it. The second time, in a Grenada 8" rearend under the 27 roadster, and that one went well, but it was more good luck that skilled installation techniques----Old guy hot rodder
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04-03-2007 05:42 PM #8
Here's an idea. You will be pleased how it works. Go to the store and but Foot Powder in an aerosol can (spray form with a powder finish....tinactin is clear so go with a powdery style spray). Lightly spray on the areas of contact. It will only contact and "rub" the surface for where you are trying to "look". It easily comes off with Brakekleen or similar cleaner. It takes no preload or extra effort to "see" what you're trying to achieve. Old trick from the old days when we needed to get a feel.Last edited by nitrowarrior; 04-03-2007 at 05:53 PM.
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04-03-2007 05:52 PM #9
to get a good print out .go to a art store/hobby shop and i use oil paint the thick past paint comes in a small tin tube i use yellow
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04-03-2007 06:10 PM #10
More pics ,This time with chalk line chalk {I am a carpenter}I will have to get some of the drive side in the next few mins....
Its gunna take longer than u thought and its gunna cost more too(plan ahead!)
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04-03-2007 06:12 PM #11
I just realized I had coast and drive sides confused
Might mark alot faster if I am looking at the right sideIts gunna take longer than u thought and its gunna cost more too(plan ahead!)
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04-03-2007 06:43 PM #12
Ok....disregard the last set of pics,I did not know my coast from my drive sideI am sure Denny knew which side he was looking at
I was a little confused in my Jethro Bodine cyphering.
Now That I am taking pictures of the correct side of the gearThey were very easy to mark.I guess turning drive direction and looking at the coast side is noo good
These are the coast side pics in this post.......Turning the drive shaft counter clockwise which is reverse to make these marks.Its gunna take longer than u thought and its gunna cost more too(plan ahead!)
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04-03-2007 06:47 PM #13
Now these are the drive side pics ,taken rotating the driveshaft clockwise which is drive ,to make these marks
I feel like Jethro Bodine after snapin all the previous incorrect photosIts gunna take longer than u thought and its gunna cost more too(plan ahead!)
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04-03-2007 07:11 PM #14
pinion to far in that would be to far in thering gear that would be DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDdLast edited by pat mccarthy; 04-03-2007 at 08:00 PM.
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04-03-2007 07:55 PM #15
Thnx,fellas
This the chart that came with the ring and pinion,........soo its calling this high tooth contact and saying move drive pinion deeper into mesh{meaning?} towards the back of the case ?Like Pat said to far in /meaning to far into case ?or too far into gears {back of case}Its gunna take longer than u thought and its gunna cost more too(plan ahead!)
I saw last night on fb about John. The world sure lost a great one. I'm going to miss his humor, advice, and perspective from another portion of the world. Rest in Peace Johnboy.
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