Then this brings me to another question.. where does this leave the future of body repair, I was talking about this to a friend who is working at a big production shop, and he's thinking about getting out of it all together... he just was complaining about how things have changed, and how the insurance adjusters are beating down their estimates, and that it was getting harder to make the money that he has come accustom to. and he's been doing this for like 30yrs now. so he's seen the changes over time. and he even said that there are not many new techs coming in looking for jobs, but like he said, unless someone is really in to cars what are they going to want to get into the business for.. alot of the youngsters are going for jobs that pay about the same or more and have to do much less work. Which I believe is true. I own my own shop and i'm not making alot of money.. I just love cars.. but my more recent attitude has been if i'm going to do this i'm going to work on the stuff that more interests me.