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I'm not, my own Son is one. But a good percentage tend to be this way.

DOn

Any nice shades of blue in there????

Don

i see nothing wrong with it as long as it is tight. i'm not a big fan of welding on cast iron myself. it can be done but theres more to it than firing up the welder and burning. not something i would do. i agree with a plate on top to keep from busting an ear off. i can only imagine what you got from all the pro's on the hamb. been there once, never been back.

I don't want to turn this into a HAMB vs. whoever thread, but of late there's been a whole lot of noobs coming onto the HAMB.
That's ok, most are there to learn and share.
And like other places in life, some are hard drinking, tattooed, opinionated think they're hot rodders and figure their way is the only way and flinging insults is the way to do it.
Many of these self-styled experts don't run a hot rod, don't build them and are just there for who knows what?

Just ignore the stuff slingers and you'll probably find what you want to know.
There are a lot of highly expert people on the board - just as there is here.

I take part in a few hot rod sites and one of them is kinda funny.
A few of the participants absolutely hate the HAMB and make sure to say so at every opportunity.
Some, don't care for it and let it slide without commenting.
But . . . quite a few of them say the HAMB is a place for great tech info, but they don't go there because they got insulted once upon a time.

Makes me wonder at times....

C9, you are right, I am maybe making a snap judgement based on a few things I have seen. My Son has been well received there, and the comments to him have always been kind and complimentary. Some of the language bothers me, but I came from a different generation. I still can't bring myself to say some words in front of a woman, even though she is using the same words herself.

They have a high membership count, and the knowledge base seems very good.


So, I concede you are correct in that, and I made some generalized statements, and we all know what happens when you do that.


Don

Originally Posted by Itoldyouso

C9, you are right, I am maybe making a snap judgement based on a few things I have seen. My Son has been well received there, and the comments to him have always been kind and complimentary. Some of the language bothers me, but I came from a different generation. I still can't bring myself to say some words in front of a woman, even though she is using the same words herself.

They have a high membership count, and the knowledge base seems very good.


So, I concede you are correct in that, and I made some generalized statements, and we all know what happens when you do that.


Don

Me too on the bad language in front of women.
Sweetie told me once that the F-word was a good strong word that has it's uses and she was glad I didn't use it as a part of normal conversation.
The comment came right after I'd smashed a finger and was doing the little dance of despair and pain with accompanying lyrics from the dictionary of very bad words....

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Anyhoo - I read through the stuff on the HAMB and it looks like some good info is coming along.

I didn't enter into the conversation since I don't have any real experience with the F1's - other than having one on my gotta own one of those one of these days list.

Are you guys trying to get the F1 down extra low?
Or just a nice noticeable, but still practical drop?

I'm wondering how re-arched - flatter - springs would work combined with a "C" on the frame to allow spring travel?

14" wheels and the right tires with the right profile can get the F1 down another 1/2" - 1 1/2" or so.

Another thought is, if - big word there - the F100 axle has more drop in stock form, could one of those be adapted without too much trouble?

Z'ing the frame in front is a viable option as well.
Granted, Z'ing creates problems with sheet metal mounting and the like, but it may be easier than what's being done and what may have to be done to accomplish using the F1 axle on top of the springs.

Looking at the pics - and it may be the angle of the shot - it looks like the steering arm may end up creating a conflict between spring pack and tie rod.

In any event, a lot of things will be learned and a lot of work will be done.
And if we were afraid of that, none of us would be in the hot rod game....

Is the plate center drilled to locate on the spring?If so weld it fast to the axle. I'd like to see thelower set of nuts gone,and spacers cut to size,so the u-bolts are free to travel through both flanges,and then tightened up enough to play a tune. They will need to be retightened every 50-100miles until they stay torqued by themselves. Hank

Weld the plate to the axle and get rid of the spacers. Metalurgically speaking, you will only rearrange the steel molecules about 1/16" into the axle forging which will not reduce its strength appreciably. Be sure to let the welds air cool, however, and do not use water or other means to cool them quicker. Doing so would cause the molecules to shrink and create a stress riser area around the welds.

My error. . . . . . . . . .

That's alright Jack. Last week I almost killed a bunch of people with my "coughing during a heart attack tip."


Don

i like how theres a really big hammer in the pictures... in case this whole plan fails horribly.

Chaz: There is another issue here, and maybe it is just me seeing it this way, and if it is, I apologize.

But, I think it is sort of a slap in the face to us for you to post a question on here, and then post exactly the same pictures and question on another forum. I understand trying to get as much input as you can, but it is sort of like saying you don't trust our opinions, and want second opinions.

Like I said, it may be just me that sees it this way, but I feel that if you are asking someone for help, it just seems a little disrespectful to turn around at the same time and ask somebody else.


Don

Originally Posted by hoof

Does this scream death by fiery crash to you? It is the front axle for my F-1 rat rod over the springs. I also flipped the spring eyes myself, but that wasn't a big deal.




Thanks,
CHAZ

those inner spacers and nuts would have to go. i really don't understand the spacers deal. if the u-bolts fit the springs then i don't see the need to weld it, if the u-bolt are wider than the springs then i would weld it. JMO

My head is still spinning over the quantity of bogus advice from that "other" forum. Half the folks were giving answers when they didn't even know the question.

Weld both sides of plates{see pic} and remove the spacers and make sure there is some sort of locating pin on the springs under the metal plate and add castle nuts to the u-bolts with the kotter pin lockers,instead of the regular nuts.I do not think there will be any problems with that part of it at all.