Wow this is an old thread being brought back to life. I think the trouble with the world is shown in this simple thread. We as humans want to define and classify everything in life. Our brains just naturally like order. The problem starts when our definition of something doesn't match someone else's definiton. Then wars start! Look at the congressional committee that threw in the towel recently. 2 parties that agree we need to fix the economy, but can't compromise on the how, because by nature as humans it's got to be my way or the highway. Compromise in the end gets so diluted that nothing is ever resolved. Definitions will be the same. By time we got 90% of the people on this site to agree to what a rat rod is, the definiton would make no sense to any of the individual reading it. It's just human nature.