Thread: Flat/satin Black Paint
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09-21-2005 01:58 PM #1
Flat/satin Black Paint
I've got a 67 c10 and It's afew different colors right now, it's straight, no rust, but it's not going to be "perfect" I'd like to shoot it that flat or satin black that you see on alot of rods, but I don't know what color that is? Is it black primer? I don't want it to fade and look like crap, and I want it to seal like paint, not a porus primer. I have a gun and a large compressor, and have painted motorcycle tanks, fenders etc, so I think I can do it. Just need to know what kind of paint. Thanks in advance
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09-21-2005 02:07 PM #2
If don't want a primer, and you want it to last, you have a few choices:
Single stage catalyzed black urethane with flattener added,
Black basecoat with either a flat clear (which PPG makes) or catalyzed urethane clear with flattener added,
or catalyzed black acrylic enamel with flattener added. This one will stay sticky longer, and attract more dust.
I did one about 8 years ago, using the first option, and it still looks fresh. I'll see if I can find a picture.
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09-21-2005 02:13 PM #3
Here it is. The flattener was PPG DX-685. It can be mixed in either colors or clears. Not all flatteners will go into clear without causing white specks. On the label are choices for "semigloss" or "full flat". I did another rod in semigloss mix, and it does not come out completely even, so use the "full flat" mix ratio.
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09-21-2005 02:15 PM #4
BTW, This car was originally done in black epoxy primer, and was starting to turn gray after about 3 years.
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09-21-2005 05:13 PM #5
Thanks, thats the black "look" I am going for. Just to be sure though, if I go with that first option (which I think I will) EXACTLY what do i need. I mean walking into the paint shop, what do I order? And do I just shoot and thats it? No clear over it? I would assume that would cause shine which I don't want. Also can I wet sand after if needed? Thanks again, and you got hot ride there!
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09-21-2005 06:36 PM #6
Here's how I would do it. You will need to prep the car like you would for a repaint.
It will need to be primed, since the paint is actually a high grade topcoat, and won't stick as well without it.
I would use a dark primer, so you don't have to shoot too many coats of black. (more coats = more dust)
Wet the floor to keep dust down, scuff sand, blow off, and tack.
The single stage urethane will have the reducer, and flattener added, and when that is mixed thoroughly, you will add the hardener.
Shoot at least two coats of the black mix. (You always do this with catalyzed paints, or they may not harden completely.) Stir it before spraying, each time.
If you get noticeable dust, let it flash off 30 minutes to an hour, scuff off the dust, tack, and shoot another coat overall.
The way it is sprayed, is the way it will stay. If you try to sand or buff, after it's painted, you will be able to see shiny or dull spots.
When you wash the car, rinse it off with water, to remove any "gritty" dirt, then wash with a soft sponge and mild dish soap. Rinse clean before it dries.
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