welcome dannebrog hope u have a great time here. although u wouldnt think it with all our male bravado , there are some things that hurt some folks. i didnt know it but the R word is not always polite conversation, its kinda like saying some one has a ugly child. for some its like apologizing for having a sibling that is errant or not aware of social responsibilitys, such as common manners. i have my own views of course, but i have been looking for another term to use that wont ignite WW3. i really am most interested in having fun with cars and making friends, not too excited about all the finer points that are "arguable" hope this helps, cause i dont like to argue or rruin someones day. Ives rdhotfrd