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    440 Setup

     



    Hey, I am new to this forum and am looking for some ideas and help. Me and a friend are going to tackle a project of sticking a 440 in a GenIII dakota ('98) club cab. It will be used for street and strip during the summer and be driven to shows. The 440 is setup right now for about 500 HP and 520 torque. With a 727 tranny and JW Performance, 11" 2600 stall converter This is my first build, but I have a friend with alot of experience, so I am just trying to get some opinions on parts I can look for in the next month or so, before we start up the build. The engine bay is stripped down already and bare. I have ideas for some parts, but would like others opinions as to what the best setup would be. I already upgraded the fuel system to a complete sx fuel system with stainless braided lines. I already have a MSD digital 7 plus for the ignition, a C&R 2 core 1.75" tube rad., and a CSI electric water pump. For the carb I am probably going to go with a BIGS Stage 5 750, 1" tall, phenolic carb spacer between the carb and intake. The rear is a 8 3/4 stock r/t setup fromt he dakotas with a wishbone linkage setup on it. I believe the rear should hold up, any suggestions if I should go with a different rear, or any mods I should make to it? I will almost for sure have to shorten it already for my tires.

    As for headers does anyone know of anything that will work or am I probably better off getting some custom headers made? I was think something with a primary pipe design of 1.75". Any recommendations for exhaust? What about intake? If anyone has any suggestions on any parts they would feel that would work best on the truck, or any suggestions for the install and setup it would be greatly appreciated. The more input I can get from people will only make for the best setup. Thanks alot!!!

    Heres a list of my engien mods for reference:
    440 engine block, bored .030 oversize Engine was blueprinted and balanced.
    440 forged steel crankshaft
    440 rods, ARP bolts installed, rods reconditioned, checked for straightness
    and magnaflux checked.
    Speed Pro Forged pistons, giving a compression ration of 9.5-1
    Speed Pro Plasma Moly file fit rings, hand fit to each cylinder
    Speed Pro Main and Rod and cam bearings
    Mopar Performance HP Windage tray
    Mopar Performance double roller timing chain set
    Speed Pro oil pump and new Mopar Performance oil pump pick up
    MP HD oil pump drive/intermediate shaft
    MP cam and lifter set #4120235 .484 lift, 282 duration
    Custom Smith Bros. Pushrods HD 3/8"
    MP HP baffled oil pan
    ATI special lite weight SFI approved harmonic damper
    #915 cylinder heads, full out port and polish job, including chambers, 3
    angle competition valve job
    Hardened exhaust seats to allow use with street gas
    Bronze valve guides
    2.14 and custom 1.78" stainless steel HP intake and exhaust valves
    MP 3690933 HP valvesprings
    MP steel valvespring retainers
    MP HD steel valve keepers
    MP viton valve seals
    Harland Sharp Aluminum roller rocker arm set
    Harland Sharp hardened steel rocker shafts
    MP aluminum light weight valve covers
    Holley Street Dominator intake manifold, extensively modified, both inside
    and out, ported and polished
    HP head bolts and hardened washers
    Detroit Gasket XHD race head gaskets
    MP HD main bolt set

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    Well so far it sounds good! The only thing that Iam trying to fig out is the driveshaft. Iam putting a 413 into a 91 dakota x cab. The thing I might have to do is use a one tone drive shaft. Because the it would be 78" long. And Iam worried about it twisting. I'll let you know how it works out for me.

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    with all that power i would stick a dana 60 under there and some 4.10 gears to give the tranny and driveshaft some ease with leverage other then that you seem to have all the goodies

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    How does someone now what the right combo is, say if you wanted to build a 440 like Blue is that really rocks and you have an idea of the combo of parts you want to use, what formula do you use to determine what to use to get the final result. Say you want to turn 11.00's or better and you have all the right drivetrian components, do I pick a cam and base everything else around it? Is there a formula? How did you come up with that combo Blue?
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    As far has headers, you might look at this post and check out Greg's sites

    http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...gonew=1#UNREAD
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    This is so kewl. I have just about finished getting my warmed over 350 into my 97 S-10. I have a real nice 440 that I built for my 4x4 project, and I've been thinking hard about selling the 4x4 project less drivetrain and putting the 440 into a Dakota. So this is priceless. Lets do it and compare notes. I love the wt to hp ratio of these small trucks.
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    ma knows

     



    Quote Originally Posted by brickman
    How does someone now what the right combo is, say if you wanted to build a 440 like Blue is that really rocks and you have an idea of the combo of parts you want to use, what formula do you use to determine what to use to get the final result. Say you want to turn 11.00's or better and you have all the right drivetrian components, do I pick a cam and base everything else around it? Is there a formula? How did you come up with that combo Blue?
    Mopar performance speed secrets book is pretty spot on on combos and race weights to get the performance you want. sorry forgot to look at post dates
    Last edited by daredevil; 07-28-2008 at 07:46 AM.
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