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    Hello everyone,

    I am a new member to the club and have also just purchased my first Hot Rod on tuesday. The car is a 31 Ford 5 window coupe. The car has a stock 73 ford mustang 9" rear. The wheels on the car have a 3.75 backspacing. With this combination in place, the tires protrude out approx. 5" outside of the rear fenders. There is approx. 4-5 inches of space between the inside of the tire and the inner fender well. What I want to do is move the rear wheels in as much as possible. With this in mind, what would be the best thing to do? Should I have the axle narrowed or find a wheel with a backspacing that would bring the wheel in where I want it.

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    Re: Narrow The Rear Or Larger Backspacing

     



    Originally posted by BARTS31
    Hello everyone,

    I am a new member to the club and have also just purchased my first Hot Rod on tuesday. The car is a 31 Ford 5 window coupe. The car has a stock 73 ford mustang 9" rear. The wheels on the car have a 3.75 backspacing. With this combination in place, the tires protrude out approx. 5" outside of the rear fenders. There is approx. 4-5 inches of space between the inside of the tire and the inner fender well. What I want to do is move the rear wheels in as much as possible. With this in mind, what would be the best thing to do? Should I have the axle narrowed or find a wheel with a backspacing that would bring the wheel in where I want it.

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    Bart
    welcome if money is not problem narrow the rear end, that will give you more choices of wheels and the deep wheels looks best.

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    Here is a picture of the back showing the protruding wheel

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    and the other side. Bye the way any idea of what I should expect to pay to have the rear narrowed if I go that way?

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    I agree with lt1s10, the narrowed rear end would look best.
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    What I should expect to pay to have the rear narrowed ???

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    Originally posted by BARTS31
    Here is a picture of the back showing the protruding wheel
    thats a nice looking car to have the tires protruding like that. you got to get those wheels up under the finders. been awhile sense i narrow a dif. and i did the labor myself, but the axels was around 300.00, but im sure theyer more than that now. somebody will let you know.

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    Here this might help ya, I put the 8 inch maverick rear in mine 56.5 wide and it holds up just fine....
    65-66 Mustang 57.25 inches
    67-70 Mustang 59.25 inches
    71-73 Mustang 61.25 inches
    77-81 Versailles 58.50 inches
    74 Maverick 8" 56.50 inches
    75 Mustang II 8" 57.00 inches
    67-73 Mustang, Torino, Ranchero, Fairlane 9" 59.25 inches to 61.25 inches
    57-59 Ranchero and station wagon rears, 57.25 inches
    66-77 Bronco 9", 58 inches
    77-81 Granada/Versailles, 58 inches
    67-71 Comet, Cougar, Mustang, Fairlane, 59.25 inches
    71-73 Mustang, 61.25 inches
    64 Falcon 58 inches
    67 Cougar 60 inches
    67 Fairlane 63.50 inches (coil springs)
    72 Ford Van 3/4 ton 68 inches
    73-86 65.25 inches
    57-59 Ranchero and station wagon 57.25 iches (narrowest 9" housing)
    66-77 Bronco 58 inches but has 5-on-5 1/2 inch diameter bolt circle
    67-73 Torinos, Rancheros, Fairlanes 59.25 inches or 61.25 inches
    67-71 Comets, Cougars, Fairlanes 59.25 inches

    Where to find the 9" rear axle
    67-73 medium and big block Mustangs and Cougars
    66-71 Fairlanes, Torinos, Montegos, Comets, and other Ford intermediates
    with big blocks
    57-59 V8 Fords and Mercurys
    77-81 Lincoln Versailles & Trucks

    Type of 9" axle housings
    67-73 Mustang/Cougar - light duty, thinnest housing material, small axle
    bearings, 28 and 31 splines
    57-68 passenger car and 1/2 ton truck - medium duty, stronger than Mustang
    type, 28 and 31 splines
    Ranchero/Torino - heavy duty thick wall housing, 3.25 inch diameter axle
    tubes with flat tops
    69-77 Galaxies (coils), Lincolns (coils), and late pickups (leaf)- 3.25
    inch diameter all the way to the backing plate, coil housings have upper
    control arm mount

    How to recognize 9" housing centers
    57 - no dimples, flat center band up the center of the rear cover, bottom
    drain plug
    58-59 - two dimples on back of housing, flat center band, some had drain holes
    60-67 - two dimples, flat center band, oil level hole in back cover
    63-77 Lincoln, LTD, Thunderbirds had 9.375 inch centers, housings were cut
    away at the gasket surface for ring gear clearance, one curved rib at the front
    top portion of differential. Strong, but no gears.

    Types of 9" Axles
    28 spline axles cannot be shortened and resplined (they're tapered)
    Some can: 69-73 Mustang and Cougars have a straight 28 spline axle.
    72 and earlier 31 spline axles have the ability to be shortened
    73 and later 9" (big cars) have a 5-on-5 bolt circle and the axles cannot be
    shortened
    67-73 Mustang axles identified by wheel flange:
    oval hole - 28 splines two large holes and counter sunk center - 31 splines

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    Neat looking rod. Believe it or not that's how we use to set them up back in the 60's with the back wheels out. I also agree, go with the narrow rear.
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    If you change the backspacing that much, the rear wheels will look just as odd as the protruding tires - at least in my (not so) humble opinion.

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    I agree with HWORELL, I do not know know the exact cost of narrowing the rear, but I got a low mileage 8" rear from a '74 Maverick for $175 and then I purchased wheels with 3.75" backspacing to fit the 66" width of the A fenders. Keep your 3.75" backspaced wheels they are just what you need for a Maverick rear. I have 735/75/15 rear tires and they are just 66" shoulder to shoulder on the outside of the tires and so just fit the fenders and are actually pretty big tires. I don't know if it is hard to find Maverick rears, but the yard in which I found mine had three and I picked the one from a '74 with only 68K miles from a 302 with the five lug drums.

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    Originally posted by Henry Rifle
    If you change the backspacing that much, the rear wheels will look just as odd as the protruding tires - at least in my (not so) humble opinion.
    the reason he would spend the extra money on the narrowed dif. is he gets to choose the backspacing he wonts and then cut the dif. accordingly. **) **)

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