They could be right. I know they rate the 6.4 at 410hp for the 3/4 and 1 tons. I guess it isn't fair as I've probably got over 200hp on the 5.7 but they don't need to know that. Haha I waxed a 5.0 Coyote a couple weeks back. But that isn't saying that guy could shift very well. Who knows. He didn't think he was so hot stuff after that run though. Hehe Sorry, I'll quit derailing your thread. At least Dodge finally started making legit crew cabs. The old ones were so cramped for room it is pathetic.