Thread: 460 Ford into 55 wagon

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Originally Posted by firebird77clone

It's my understanding that fuel sending units don't actually operate off 12V: they need a voltage reducer.

This is what is referred to in the 6 to 12 volt link I posted above: Electrical & Wiring - INSTRUMENT VOLTAGE REGULATOR, 1965-66 Mustang

the last 460 swap i did I used the mounts that came with the engine and fabbed some new frame brackets. 460 vans have rear sump pans and an oil filter casting that you can pivot around to different angle, the van oil filter casting will fit on any engine that uses the ph 8a filter. I think some Mopars also use the : Ford :filter. Some HD 460 Vans also have a factory engine oil cooler.

more thinking. when they put SBF into the 55 on chassis the mustang 5.0 convertible mounts work by slotting the frame bracket holes , one slot instead of two holes in the frame bracket. There are kits to put a 460 in a mustang fox chassis, some google time might find some mounts that would work for the mustang convertible chassis and just have to slot the holes in the 55.

Originally Posted by timothale

more thinking. when they put SBF into the 55 on chassis the mustang 5.0 convertible mounts work by slotting the frame bracket holes , one slot instead of two holes in the frame bracket. There are kits to put a 460 in a mustang fox chassis, some google time might find some mounts that would work for the mustang convertible chassis and just have to slot the holes in the 55.

Here is a shot of the late Mustang mount in a "55 with a 302: driverside02 | The H.A.M.B.

The brakes are on
https://picasaweb.google.com/1107207...38341239622322
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Originally Posted by timothale

the last 460 swap i did I used the mounts that came with the engine and fabbed some new frame brackets. 460 vans have rear sump pans and an oil filter casting that you can pivot around to different angle, the van oil filter casting will fit on any engine that uses the ph 8a filter. I think some Mopars also use the : Ford :filter. Some HD 460 Vans also have a factory engine oil cooler.

I actually have a rear sump 460/E4OD that I pulled from my 84 E350 when I changed to an 89 7.3L/E4OD diesel. But I am saving that for a pickup.

My intent is to use a front sump 460/E4OD.

Originally Posted by JeffB2

This is what is referred to in the 6 to 12 volt link I posted above: Electrical & Wiring - INSTRUMENT VOLTAGE REGULATOR, 1965-66 Mustang

That thing is called a voltage regulator, I don't quite know what to call it. I don't know when it was first used, but I have them from 63 to 89. They are the same unit with different mounts.

Both the regulator and the gauge consist of a bimetallic strip. Put current thru them, they get hot, and they bend. When the strip in the regulator bends it cuts off current to the gauges. When the one in a gauge bends it moves the needle. So the gauges get almost full 12 volts, but only intermittently, and so are activated by average current.

If you want to test one, as I recall, three volts - constant - will move it full scale. But in normal operation, the voltage is not constant, because the voltage regulator is slowing opening and closing. Fuel, Oil pressure, and water temp are all the same gauge, just different face.

I will not be using the 55 Fuel gauge. If I use that type it will be from a 76, because that is what I have available mostly. If I do use that gauge type I am considering an actual constant voltage regulator, because those current regulators tend to wander.

Scott Drake now shows an electronic regulator. I ordered something that showed the same picture, but they shipped a part that looked like the old parts.