Dave, you are right on removing the rear wheels and tires. I had a 8.5 under it with 15x7 strike wheels, 235/75/15's. After taking the shocks loose I had to let the air out of them to get them on or off, real pain. What about ramcharger style with mud flaps!! Seriously, I think I'll cut them and weld a 1/4 in rod on the inside and roll the fender around the rod. I want it clean and not just cut out. I'm going to take some 1/8 in tape and experiment. Inspector I'm with you on the way they are now, they're ugly. Thought about making a pattern of the front and laying it out on the rear. Either way I think I'll keep the rear fenders on, LOL.