Roger---I'm just starting to get hold of the bucket thing as it seems there isn't going to be any changes made here---I saw last night that they went into the ablum and not into a 2014 Sycamore, Il car show ablum but it got late and I was tired--will try some more later tonite---today I'm trying to clean out a couple storage bins and also have just received a call from a PH D guy over near OHare airport about aircraft procedures---hard to tell where that will go, could be about Asiana in SFO, May 370 , the latest Ukraine deal or just noise abatement procedures for the new runway at ORD