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Well I figure now is a good time to start this . In the Build you travel through time seeing things that took months , hours and minutes to do , do not try to adjust your screen .
With the help of many here Dave S.-Dave W.- Don - Ken Thurm and a lot more , I have been able to get it this far and have a very safe car .
Also some video of a local guy Zack at 25 is a master sheet metal man .
Here is when it first came home about August of 2007
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My wife was not as thrilled considering this has been the oldest to date . My Mustangs seem to look better but she is not a auto ace Thank God .
Well we get her of the trailer and access what I have . See I go get them then bring them home works better for me that way . This car had taken a hit from something of the same era being the damage is so high on the body . The left fender , door , quarter and left rr fender has damage . The body was in about 1 inch or more . The main thing that was so good is the car went to inside storage after accident . The body is rust free minus some very light pitting from old rock chips on the gravel roads .
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In this shot you can see where door and quarter are in right at the handle height
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Well thoughts were I might try to fix this door but they changed quick the twin body line was to much a match for my sheet metal skill . LOL , so I located one on Ebay in clean shape . I built this wooden frame to use a bottle jack and push body back out to where it should be and got things lined up .
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A little better shot as to how it came out in the end
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Well before I unbolt the body from the frame the next step was the chopping and how much . This area was I think the longest , I looked and studied other cars to see what fit the body style right . In the end I came up with a 3 inch chop was the best I candy that I liked .
So I taped it off and with seeing how someone else did it I copied them . First I took plenty of 1.2 conduit , flattened the ends and welded them in to secure body from moving as I was told from members here .
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Then I cut off the roof , I went at this with no hesitation since I had so much instruction from some great guys .
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Ok with the roof down on the ground , I can grind down to the paint edge getting a matching line for the body .
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When both body and roof have been ground I put it back on . Here with the advice again of someone here I used the cut 3 inch pieces to fit in the smaller pillers to help hold the roof in place .
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thats looking great, keep the build pics comming, am loving this thred.
cheers barnsey
It looks like the body was a lot better than most of this age to start with.......and you popped that bad spot out very well. I'm looking forward to the rest of your progress pictures.
Funny how wives and neighbors usually don't share our enthusiasm for bringing a car like this home, huh? :D:D My neighbors had Code Enforcement on speed dial. :eek:
Don
This looks great. I have always wanted to chop a top down, but never got the chance. As close as I came was on a '29 Model A but it never happened. Although I did make a nice Rat rod out of it.
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Going along quite well on the sedan, Bobby!!!! Sure does make things nicer when starting with that nice of a body! What's next on the schedule?????
Frame and suspension that I was taught again by everyone here on how to stiffen frame for my engine application and needs . The only change up I have added was pulling the 5 spd and now i am installing the AOD from a 88 Mustang .
Looking good ...... I've always thought about a nice 2 door ..... maybe IF and only if I complete the 46 anytime soon.
REGS
Don not only better but I would say perfect condition as we all will see at the end . If you find them this clean you have a little piece of gold . This car still has original black paint on the inside . A little more tease shots .Quote:
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Remember the original interior that was in it .
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Hey lookin good subscribed for sure.
Today I will show the front suspension I installed. I looked at Mll and front coil overs and read on them as much as I could . I also asked a lot of questions here and at others sites from guys who have ran both types . Well the coil over Heidts Superide won hands down .
Here is rails after I welded 1 inch square stock then took off original front suspension . I set in cross member with clamps before I did any measuring .
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I knew I was going to have about a 2 inch rake with the tires at ride height . What I did was purchase some RV trailer stabilizer jacks the type that screw up or down . With these I put in the rake and leveled the frame . This would have showed up any twists or bends the frame might have .
Here I left the body on and bolted also just to help hold frame from moving . I read and heard the frame was designed to shift with the road as much as the shock to help the ride .
Here you can see the stabilizer jack under the frame . These work great when the floor is out of level .
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Inthe top post you can see 2 under the front rails also .
Well after reading directions for setting up sub frame , I measured and checked a few times and marked center . Heidts directions only allow 1 degree negative to rear for bump steer issues so I made sure I held it in that tolerance.
So with everything set and a check over many times on its position I clamped the sub frame into weld position .
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Here they wanted a inside boxing plate installed before setting the sub frame so I had them prepared before welding .
Here after I welded it all in and mocked in control arms and spindle I was amazed the 103.5 inch wheel base was right on . I stone finished all the welds to smooth them out . You see additional weld platter from more welding .
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Here it is a mock up assembly ,
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Not to be a ball buster but WHY did you dress the welds?? You are aware that they are at their strongest in the "delivered" state .......
If you were not happy with the "look" and plan on going over them then that'd be OK.
If you noticed ...... Heidts does NOT dress the welding they do ....
I only say this as a very experienced welder (I'm a retired GE Power Generation guy) & hate to see front end stuff break with a car load of people in it @ 65mph (not that your will - just a thought).
REGS
Regs the welds looked fine I did it just to smooth . I did do 6 passes on it to make sure I had a thick enough weld to grind with out thinning .
But believe me I will install a new pass since you explained this . I figured Heidts didn't do it just to save time . So this is why they use plastic to smooth instead of stone grinding , Thank you for the heads up and I will correct it . I am here learning you are not busting me down .
I'm glad you took this the way it was ment ...... as a guide to assist you. I'm also on a few motorcycle forums & am ALWAYS disturbed when I see people that are grinding down the weldment on those frames.
A mud swipe can easily be done on a properly welded (penitration wise) weld.
I prefer the clean "roll of dimes" look myself .... my work:
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REGS
Im just glad it was pointed out because safety is the first thought . Like I said this also explains the plastic which is easier I think them dressing welds . Thank You again:cool:
Your work is great I can lay a nice weld but not doing it daily it may have nickels in it LOL
Bobby - I checked the webshots & IMO your project is coming right along.
I hear ya on the nickels ...... everyone starts some place. Continued practice is key. I didn't get good at this by hitt'n the TIG torch once & a while. When I don't weld for a week or so I usually run a bead or two on a practive plate .....
I do steel but love clean aluminum.
Keep up the good work.
REGS
This is the left rear fender that had damage . Zack worked over for a good 5 hours but it is really close to a stamping . I thought this fender was trash and had been looking for one .
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This is the left front he worked for me also .
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Looks good, Bobby. That's some fine hammer & dolly work; wish I had his touch.
Lookin' great, Bobby! Installing some of the big parts and front suspension makes it look like you accomplished a lot---then other days you can work 10 hours and it doesn't look like you did anything!!!!!!:LOL::LOL::LOL:
He did a lot off heat shrinking and stretching to get it there with the hammer and dolling . Wish I had half his talent also .Quote:
Originally Posted by falconvan
Dave I have had it together and apart so many times I don't know if I did anything sometimes LOL . But it soon will be close .
I feel a little bit like I'm stuck in a time warp right now since we've seen this before :whacked:. Are you putting all of this together in one thread now because you decided to finish it or are you still trying to sell it as a project?
Putting it all together for the new members and finishing it . But 35 that is a compliment seeing you remember it Thank You I can still see your 35 and I need you build site again if you would . . But it's still going on the block But nothing is selling as a project . . I still have done some new but starting from the beginning is 2 years old .
I would move through it fast but some would miss out . :( Like the response Regs gave very informational I never knew that . I always thought the strength was in the root weld and the clean passes over it .
The frame short and simple . Start to just shy of done .
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son removing bumper hardware
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Also remember to add mounting hardware before boxing in frame .
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We all know that mounting a SBF in a A is a challenge unless you make the frame longer or really recess the fire wall. First I wanted to run a mechanical fan but that was out from the length . So I located a 94 - 95 Mustang short water pump serpentine belt drive .
Well then the 37 came along and all the parts I wanted was in the 31 . So back went the the long water pump . Now It will run a electric fan . Second change was i pulled the 5 spd and installed a AOD from a 88 Mustang . The TV cable has been a chore but I have it down now to what will work .
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The AOD is coming close got the right TV cable for the throttle valve and fuel is soon .
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Oh also looked at this ugly hole for 2 years it is a 4 inch recess now.
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Gift from a friend
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In the car
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My oldest son Jeremiah cutting out the old motor mounts . Done with a 110V lincoln welder , flux core , I did 45 degree the metal before it was welded .
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On the stands again and changing out the rear end to another one i have . If I had been able to corral 2 neighbors would have rather had the body on the dolly . Busy season yet so soon for that.
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First and only reason to tack things in until the final build. Even after 2 years I am changing out the rear end if i would have welded the link mounts on solid I would be getting new ones .
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Well this is where it is today . Soon the frame will be done and shot then the body will go on for the last time . Will be working a little more trying to catch tax time . :CRY:
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Nice stance, nice chop, nice job ....... wheels?? Are you going to mount the fuel tank out back ala '32 ford? That'd fill the M/T space betwen rear fenders & lower rear body line.
Are you selling this??
Ratty 46
Regs I am getting it going to sell . Projects are dead at the moment maybe offers will be better having a driver if not I have the title and will just sit on it .
Also I want to get going on the 37 I bought last year much bigger car and easy to get in and out off.
The fuel tank is clean so I will have it boiled and sealed .
Well this was riding with me in the back of the truck since last spring . 8 Inch open from a 66 fairlane XL . Son helped me bring it in .
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Sweet work Blustang, very cool, you have her looking cool. I too like the stance and your going to sell her huh? You say she is hard to get in and out of? Hard for a 6'r huh? Anyway, nicely done.
Tony glad to hear from ya ,
Well this is the plan 2 car garage and 3 cars . Wife jumped in when I mentioned moving the Mustang so I picked one . The 31 is a tight fit for me at 6 ft LOL I do like to be comfortable , since I have a bad back . Now kicking the seat way back works out some still a very tight door for me at a mere 26 inches with the door open . Kinda like trying to crawl into that box we played in as kids .
Also since You have been recouping this slid in when I sold the BB Mustang Fastback a year ago .
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