Poor mans air conditioning

Last night when I left the shop my Son Dan was working on installing a 32 Ford cowl vent into his Model A RPU. I see this morning he got it done and posted some pictures on another forum, so I stole them to post here.:)

The main reason he had to add this vent was because he is using an underdash master cylinder setup and had no way to easily check the fluid level or to fill it. He considered a Model A gas fill but that hole is very small. So this year at Turkey Run he picked up a complete cowl vent assembly from Brookville Roadster and got that installed last night.

These pictures should be pretty self explanatory but essentially he cut a square hole in his Model A cowl, trimmed lots of excess he didn't need on the 32 vent assembly, and welded it in. Once it was ground smooth it will need very little filler, if any, as it looks like he skipped around welding it and kept distortion to a minimum. Just thought if anyone was thinking of doing the same thing this might come in handy.

Don

This was the reason for the vent. You can see how tight the master cylinder is to service. This will make it much easier.

Don

Oh Don ........ nice job & isn't it easy with the right tool for the right job??

Nice clean install. Like it'd been there from the start.

Paul

Another fine job by young Daniel. Those panel clamps are sure clever devices too, I hope the guy who thought them up is getting his reward.

When I saw the title I thought you were going to post this pic.........

Man, that kid has some mad skills, that looks fantastic. what do you call those clips he's using to hold the vent flush around the edges?

Bob,
Is that your car?
Ken

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Originally Posted by Ken Thurm

Bob,
Is that your car?
Ken

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Nah, too nice....................besides, us rednecks always drive trucks.

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Originally Posted by Dago Red

Man, that kid has some mad skills, that looks fantastic. what do you call those clips he's using to hold the vent flush around the edges?

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Thanks guys. Don't know the formal name for those clamps, we just call them panel clamps. Eastwood sells them among others , but we also found them at Harbor Freight, much cheaper. They are kind of a slick deal, they pull the two parts into alignment and slip out after you weld around them.

No Ken, Bob is craftier than that. His would have had a retractable electric cord reel to give him greater range. :D

Don

Well I guess I need to stop skipping a head I was just gonna ask about the master cylinder. I am planning on putting my master cylinder under the drivers seat but I am a little worried about something poping up and hitting the new brake pedel.
Kurt

As long as it doesn't extend down below the frame you should be ok Kurt. My 23 is very low and my pedal is floor mounted, never even comes close to anything. How is yours setup? Any pictures?

Don

Tell the young-un that is again some sensational fab work, Don!!! Sure is good to see there are at least a few his age who still believe in quality work!!! Have you given any thought as to what to get him for Christmas, Don??? A young man with his talent and creativity could sure have a lot of fun with a CNC mill!!!!

Thanks Dave. Yeah, I could get him that, but I would have to give up eating and having a roof over my head the rest of my life. :LOL::LOL:

I was thinking more like............socks. :D

Don

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Originally Posted by Itoldyouso

Thanks Dave. Yeah, I could get him that, but I would have to give up eating and having a roof over my head the rest of my life. :LOL::LOL:

I was thinking more like............socks. :D

Don

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Heck, you could just live in the shop and keep the new socks for yourself!!!! Just think of all the neat stuff he could build with it!!!!!!!!

He and Don are trying to put me in the old age home as it is. If I spend the last of my money, I'm history!:eek::LOL::LOL:

Don

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Originally Posted by Itoldyouso

He and Don are trying to put me in the old age home as it is. If I spend the last of my money, I'm history!:eek::LOL::LOL:

Don

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Well, maybe if you buy them some CNC equipment they'll let you hang out for awhile!!!! ----Just be sure to get an agreement in writing before you make any purchases!:eek::eek::eek:

Nice work Dan. I know your proud of him. He must have some tremendous patience. Both of your boys seem very mechanically inclined, maybe a used mill?:D:cool:

[QUOTE=stovens;372137maybe a used mill?:D:cool:[/QUOTE]

Steve, you've heard of "Champagne tastes and beer budget?" How about "CNC tastes and SOCKS budget?" :LOL::LOL::LOL:

But they will be very NICE socks. :p

Don

Don did he use Mig or Tig just wondering Realy nice job

Here Itoldyouso; http://www.flickr.com/photos/kurtvara/
Not really good pictures but My set up is probably kind of like a 23.
I will be able to adjust alot of the slack out, but I am not sure if it will come below the frame. Maybe a little. Pictures are at the bottom of the page. Kurt

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Don did he use Mig or Tig just wondering Realy nice job

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Charlie, he used his Mig. He's gotten very comfortable with the Mig and his logic is that he wants to spend some time practicing with the Tig before he does any work with it. With his time being at a premium any time he gets he tries to make as much progress as he can, so if he spent time playing with the Tig it would take some of that time away. He doesn't know it but he is going to get a whole lot of practice when he builds my cage for me in my Altered. :D Although maybe MY ROLLBAR isn't the place to practice welding. :eek::D

Kurt, from what I can see in the pictures it looks like you have plenty of ground clearance under there. You shouldn't have any problems IMO.

Don

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Steve, you've heard of "Champagne tastes and beer budget?" How about "CNC tastes and SOCKS budget?" :LOL::LOL::LOL:

But they will be very NICE socks. :p

Don

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I'll tell yah Don, I love my Costco socks. They last a long time and are comfortable!:LOL::D

Hey Don ...... I wish I was a bit closer ...... I'd give your son some TIG lessons .....

I will say his MIG work is very good looking.

Let'm pratice on the roll bar .... your not getting that on its lid!!! Will you???

Paul

I wish you were closer too Paul, you know your way around a welder, that's for sure. Maybe if you make that move to Tampa? :D

Steve, I gotta try those Costco socks. The Walmart ones I've been buying aren't getting the job done. For some reason they get rust stains around the tops.......maybe I've been doing too much grinding in them. ;)


Don

Hey Don ...... got 1 more year with the oldest in high school ..... then we can try & escape the atlanta area!!! Fla. is on the top of my list.

The new year will bring good things......

Paul

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Originally Posted by Itoldyouso

Steve, you've heard of "Champagne tastes and beer budget?" How about "CNC tastes and SOCKS budget?" :LOL::LOL::LOL:

But they will be very NICE socks. :p

Don

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HEY!!!! I resemble that comment!!!!!:LOL::LOL:

you can get on and off the sheet metal with the mig more so then the tig for small lower heat tacks fast .well for me any ways i like to have a hammer and dolly not to far away to work at abit as i go .tig welding is not that hard abit slower then mig .but better weld fillet control for welds that look so good you want to frame them and hand them on the wall :) .your son should take to it like a duck to water