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    Dave W you got a deal. Sounds like a lot of work and it looks great.
    Pat - I wasn't insulting anybody's abilities, just my own. With hard work and prep paint jobs look better, I imagine it is the same for powder coating. If it took 20 hours of prep, in Ca your going to get charged by the hour for the prep, then there is material costs and some profit to pay the rent. Things are very expensive out here at shops with the reputation to get the job done right the first time.
    I also agree that I'd rather do as much of the prep as possible to keep the prices down. There are some people out here with lots of bucks and no desire, or time to do it themselves and they would gladly pay for somweone else to do it right.
    Now back to Don's original questions, about price ranges, what fillers to use and Dan doing the prep, I'm sure that would lower costs significantly.
    Don I found this web page with info on fillers for powder coating, hope it helps. Steve
    http://www.finishing.com/1600-1799/1605.shtml
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    with powder coating you get a tough coat and you go from blast to color were with paint your going to prime and then paint and maybe clear the more flim build with paint the bigger the chip the way i see it even if you go with ppg best poly paint it will not take the hammer hit test but you can fill and prime and block till your arms fall off and paint it with out any worries about fillers
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    Don, here is a web site for powder coating. It's the site that I found streetworkz listed.
    WWW.customcoaters.com
    You can search for coaters in florida on that site.
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    I'm really glad I posted this thread and asked these questions, not only for the decision we are trying to make, but for anyone else who might consider this option in the future. Every post tilts the scale a little further in the direction of powder coating for us. Streetwerkz, it was very helpful for you to share your professional opinion to the mix. I never got to personally say welcome to the forum, so here goes........Welcome to the forum.

    My Son called our local coater yesterday and they want to meet with him and go over some options. They echoed a lot of what Streetwerkz posted, so it sounds like they might be able to do a good job for us. They did his wheels, and we were happy there, and the cost was only $ 50 per wheel. The price you quoted isn't too scary, because by the time a person buys all the prep and paint supplies needed to do the job it isn't cheap either. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and shell out some bucks to get the results you are after.

    I remembered too that one day recently we took a boat out for seatrial, a high end 37 center console, and the rails, tower, and lots of other trim were powder coated white. It was really smooth and such a nice change from stainless that most companies use. When Ken made the comment about his trailers being nice I remembered that boat and how impressed we all were.

    I am going to find out about the filler Streetwerkz mentioned, I saw that name on a website. If our local coater can and will get it for us we will probably go with it. When we get this frame done I'll post some pictures and hopefully it will come out as nice as the one IC2 had done.

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    Little update. Just spoke to Dan, he met spoke with the guy at the powder coater today and they told him without hesitation they could do exactly what ever stage of perfection he wants. They work with some company who will come in and fill and fair it, and do exactly the steps Streetwerkz outlined. In fact, they said they can send a rep to the shop to look at the frame to help us make some decisions.

    That pretty much cinches it, we are going to bust tail getting the final work done on it this weekend and drop it off Monday and let them do it all. Dan didn't want U bolts going over the front crossmember, so today he ordered the weld on front bolt kit from Pete and Jakes, which are coming overnight. That just leaves some small welding to be done on the new support tubes we added last weekend, and that should be it.

    Maybe by the following weekend we can pickup a finished black frame and start bolting on the shiny stuff. Thanks again guys for helping us make this decision.

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    Well since the powder coat vs paint issue has already been cleared up, I'll just comment on the chassis. STUPENDOUS! I can't wait to see it in person. Don you guys are making us back yard amateurs look like, well, amateurs. I'll see you, Dan, and Don at Billetproof and I expect that RPU to be there too. That and J Robinsons car will be the highlight for me.
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    Good for you, sounds like you found a coater who knows how to do custom!!

    Tiger Drylac Epo Strong really is the only product out right now that works.
    We have trial and error test every other product we could find, the rest have failed miserably
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    Oh yeah, you are quite the beginner, aren't you?? In case anyone hasn't seen the latest incarnation of Bill's Deuce, take a look at these pictures. This is a study in patience, and craftsmanship. I cheat and use pop rivets, but not Gastrick........he uses the real thing.

    This car just looks so much like it should have rolled out of the '50's. and the new hemi sure looks sweet in there.

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    Same here Don.That is if i can find you this year.

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    You young guys have too much energy, you keep moving around.


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    WOW!! Does that Firewall and Hemi look great! GEEZ!! I am going to need a minute to calm down

    Awesome job Bill!
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    Beautiful detailed work!
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    I had a conversation with Tiger Drylac's rep Dave today, very nice guy and very informative. Bottom line, Tiger Drylac Epo Strong is the filler we will be using. I am going to call the coater tomorrow and see if they use it or can get it. If not Dave said we can buy it directly at about $ 50 a quart kit. It is two part and he says it sands out great with no shrinkage or problems. This is going to make our lives so much easier, I just didn't feel like dragging out the paint gun again.

    Plan is to get the frame done this weekend and drop it off Monday. Getting the frame coated will be a MAJOR step in the finishing of this car, and should spur Dan on once he sees his shiny stuff bolted under it.

    I'm excited and it isn't even my car.


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    Don, we're excited for you and Dan, we can't wait to see it!!!

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    any updates?
    how's she lookin?
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