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Bob, you're right about the same parts costing more for the luxury cars vs the lesser versions. When I worked at the body shop if we bought a part for a Toyota it was one price, but sometimes there was an identical part for a Lexus and it was a lot more. Oh, the American way!

Brian, when I was a kid we had a 12 foot Murray wooden boat with a 7.5 hp Sears outboard on it. Used to go to Conneaut Lake in Pennsylvania with it and we would drool that all the rich people who lived on the lake had those neat old wooden Chris Craft speedboats. I always thought it was so cool to see them come roaring into the dock at full speed and then pull that big old chrome shifter into reverse and stop on a dime. Wooden boats had a certain charm that glass ones can't quite capture.

Thanks Ken. The funny thing about boats is that no matter what you have, there is ALWAYS someone with a bigger, more expensive one. We just took in a 63 Viking sport fish that has everyone at our marina with their tongues hanging out.......it is magnificent, worth about 2.7 million. It even has cameras on the outriggers so you can watch what your trolled baits are doing! But tonight I was watching a show on the History Channel about Mega yachts. These are the ones in the 200 foot range and cost upwards of $ 50 Million..........so it is all very relative. I guess you just have to be happy with where you are in life, otherwise it will drive you nuts.

Bob, that part of your life sounds like it was something to remember forever. A lot of people in the boating business hate boats because we do see a lot of unhappy times, especially when we have to inform someone they are going to have to shell out some money for an unexpected repair. But I still like them and am tempted pretty often to buy another one. My family grew up boating and I never had to worry about my kids getting into drugs or any problems because I knew they were only 18 feet away from me at any given time. I'll own another one someday, but will probably downsize next time.

BTW, Dan posted some better pictures of his motor on the HAMB than I had, so I thought I'd put them up here.

Don

Looks great, Don! The Imron you used on the chassis; is that a chassis paint that they make or is their standard paint tough enough for frame use?

Thanks, no the chassis is powder coated black. The Imron is on the motor and transmission only. But Imron is pretty tough, and probably great for frames and stuff too. In fact, I plan on shooting the frame and parts of my 29 RPU with it now that I saw how nice it laid onto Dans parts.

Don

Originally Posted by Itoldyouso

Thanks, no the chassis is powder coated black. The Imron is on the motor and transmission only. But Imron is pretty tough, and probably great for frames and stuff too. In fact, I plan on shooting the frame and parts of my 29 RPU with it now that I saw how nice it laid onto Dans parts.

Don

Don how's that paint hold up to heat on the tranny and engine? It looks so nice I was thinking of maybe shooting my rear axle, and drums, but sure about the temperature issues?

Steve, it's not an issue at all. I painted the 302 in my 27 the same way all those many years ago, and it didn't look all that bad when I tore it down a while ago. My 23 was painted with it and it has been on the road now for a year and a half and looks just like the day I sprayed it. The secret is the epoxy primer you use first, it lets it stick to the cast iron block and maybe do some heat shielding too. But I think the heat shielding would not really be needed anyway.

And it sure looks a lot better than the rattle can jobs and holds up a lot longer.

Don

Don wrote:

From all that I have heard about Imron in the past I think it is probably just as tough, if not more.

Dupont Imron is what we used to paint cabover Freightliner bodies back in the mid 70's. It stood up real well to road gravel and stones. The toxicity of Imron is probably one reason painters have to wear space suits today when they paint. We wore a dust mask, long sleeve shirts and jeans.

It sure looks pretty on the pictures. I have to re paint my frame after a change in the steering setup; I might give it a try. The stuff I used looked good but it seems to chip easy.

I've had good luck in the past with catalyzed paint, like Dupont Centari with hardner in it. I did my 27 frame about 20 years ago and have dropped stuff on it and drove it almost daily, and the paint could still be used (if I wasn't sick of looking at the Purple paint ) From all that I have heard about Imron in the past I think it is probably just as tough, if not more. When we scuffed the paint on the engine the other night in spots where we wanted gaskets to adhere, it was VERY hard to sand, so it seems like one tough critter.

Don

i srayed 5 gallons of imron on a big 80 ton crane . that the most i never used at one time.i sprayed the big mack trucks with the stuff. the good thing about imron was at one time it just hop up centari could be mix off a centari mixing bank .we use to use the imron harder in centari .the ppg durethane is what i sprayed on air planes is it is bad stuff . it is a true polyester polyurethane bad bad stuff . posted bit on page 3 post line523 . when the stuff setup in the mixing jug a week later you could make a super ball with it .it would not bust apart

Back in my body shop days, another painter and I sprayed 5 gallons of John Deere green Imron on a huge bush hog for the local forestry service. We sprayed non-stop almost all day. Couldn't hardly run the stuff if you tried; very forgiving paint and easy to mix & spray... My only other experience with the stuff was a dark blue metallic van that had previously been painted with it. It got a ding in one front corner and I had to repair it and spot in the paint. Yeah, right! Imron does not spot & blend well and as for buffing.., I think concrete would probably buff easier. It IS some durable stuff, though. Our local DuPont dealer doesn't carry the stuff any more and I thought it had been discontinued.

I also sprayed some Ditzler Durethane several years ago; it was great stuff for hotrod frames, boats, boat trailers, and stock cars. By the time you were finished spraying the average frame or trailer, it was difficult to walk around in the booth because your shoes would stick to the floor. It was some really tough, chip resistant stuff. You could paint a panel with it, let it dry overnight, and then beat the panel to a pulp and the paint would not chip! We painted a stock car with it once and tire marks would just wipe off with mineral spirits! Unfortunately, the stuff was expensive and deadly hazardous to your health. I don't think it's available any more, at least not here in Florida...

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the durethane is hard to get but still can be found. i would wet the floor and paint air plane parts. by the end of painting i was a 1/2 taller. it would lay on the water leave a flim and stick down on the bottom of my shoes . i would get home feel very sticky .i would have to scrape it off eye lashes with my finger nails or they would stick together .that was the only paint that could flex with the skin of the plane. there was a time when evey one had something like imron that was a hop up enamel acme had acme 1000 and ppg had star thane . i like to shoot that stuff .but durethane was the real deal abit tricky to spray if every thing was rigth it lay dead flat

I painted the chassis and a lot of the small parts with black Imron on a car I built about 1988 using a good carbon filter but still ended up breathing some fumes. I then had to take an international business trip the next day and could hardly breathe after the plane reached altitude - they try to maintain pressure based on 6-8000 feet and I almost had to ask for an oxygen mask. The paint job - absolutely beautiful with no dirt and not a run. Me - well it never helped my appearance, but it sure was a lesson in painting with nasties

I thought it was strange on that one episode of Drag Race High where they showed them painting the Chevelle in the booth. The pros who were painting the car had on respirators and the kids who were in the booth standing around watching had on those little paper dust masks. I guess they figure kids are young and tough.

Boy am I gonna have some pictures when we get home tonight! We pulled another all nighter, and the engine/transmission are bolted into the frame! Today we are going to continue putting stuff on it and plan to roll it into the sunshine for some shots. This is the furthest along the car has been in four years and it is feeling pretty good.

Don

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