thanks guys. especially for the fast response. I was thinking 4k maybe, good thing I asked here. I am trying to help my friend balance his enthusiasm with patience to pick something good. has to be his taste but I think I am picking up on what he likes and am pointing some of them out to him as I find them.

You're great, appreciate the help. later I'll try and post some pics of update on what we've done on the 51 recently and where we're headed with it. see what you think.

Red