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    That’s exactly how it happen Bob, we had just left the fair grounds in Columbus, Ohio NSRA. I was going up a ramp leading to the by pass, the ramp was banked to the right and there was a raised expansion joint. When the right front wheel hit the raised area all hell broke loose. I had no control of the car it was going back and forth. I thought it was going to flip. I got it stopped just before it was about to hit the guardrail.

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    When I first did the alignment on my car I used the TCI specs. They are not right and had some scary bump steer encounters. Now instead of 1/32" toe in, it's now 3/32's. The caster was 1.5* now it's ~3.5* with the camber at their spec. Voila - it now handles very nicely. Will I experience some additional tire wear by not using the TCI spec - maybe, so what, but at least the car handles very nicely now.
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    Dave,
    I think you will have less tire wear with your set up. Anytime it handles better you are using less tire friction.
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    Wow! Truely a great write up so far. Can't wait to read more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Thurm View Post
    Dave,
    I think you will have less tire wear with your set up. Anytime it handles better you are using less tire friction.
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    Yeah Ken, my instinct tells me that as well - but even if I only get 10-15,000 miles out of those premium Yokohama AVS 'Z' rated tires, I'll be a very happy camper - and yes, I know 'Z' rated tires on a car with the aerodynamics of a slightly rounded brick is ludicrous, but if the size AND price are right......
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    Quote Originally Posted by ford2custom View Post
    That’s exactly how it happen Bob, we had just left the fair grounds in Columbus, Ohio NSRA. I was going up a ramp leading to the by pass, the ramp was banked to the right and there was a raised expansion joint. When the right front wheel hit the raised area all hell broke loose. I had no control of the car it was going back and forth. I thought it was going to flip. I got it stopped just before it was about to hit the guardrail.

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    Nope Richard, what you are describing is Death Wobble......totally different than Bump Steer. Bump steer usually only takes your car a little off course one direction or the other. When the wheels shimmy back and forth violently in both directions, that is Death Wobble. When that one happens to you it is something you never want to experience again.

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    This little video shows Death Wobble on a Jeep.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwiv2...eature=related

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itoldyouso View Post
    Nope Richard, what you are describing is Death Wobble......totally different than Bump Steer. Bump steer usually only takes your car a little off course one direction or the other. When the wheels shimmy back and forth violently in both directions, that is Death Wobble. When that one happens to you it is something you never want to experience again.

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    Pretty scary stuff Don. Did you scroll down to see what was going on inside the JEEP during the death wobble?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKO-t...eature=related
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    Quote Originally Posted by stovens View Post
    Pretty scary stuff Don. Did you scroll down to see what was going on inside the JEEP during the death wobble?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKO-t...eature=related
    Steve, if a high speed wobble or death wobble was like that and you were holding on with both hands it wouldn't be so bad.

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    It wouldn't be at that!:lol::d:d:d
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    Here is a shot of it with the dash in and the 17" steering wheel. I got this wheel with the box, it was supposed to have been out of a 50's Indy car. No proof of that, but that's why I wanted to use it. But after seeing it in there it just looks to big to me. It won't sit that high when it's finished but I still think I will have to go to a 15" wheel. What do ya think???
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    It's all about proportions. If it looks too big...........it's too big. Might help to have it where it's going to end up, and have the door hung to get the full feel of it.
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