37 Ford build--IE: old Header issues thread /37 Ford/5.0/GT40P heads

[randyr]

Randy a pedal assembly from a 94 to 98 Mustang will take care of your woes on the cable clutch . Very small mounting assembly that takes up hardly any room at all . Here is a pic of said assembly inside the Model A great fit for this small area also .

Hey Bobby, thanks for the pic. Those Mustang pedals might be ok but I'm not willing to poke a hole in my new firewall for a master cylinder. Whatever I do will have to be under the floor or under the dash. What drive train are you going to put in your car?
Good to hear from you.
Randy

[bluestang67]

SBF with a T-5 the shape of the firewall has me thinking on the master cylinder also . I will cut and shape it though to get it to work . They do have the right angle master pedal sets hydraulic clutch which will work too .

With the floor pedals some type of bell crank could be made easy enough if you want to keep the pedals there and use a cable . I am just trying what I hope may be easy application with hanging pedals..

[randyr]

SBF with a T-5 the shape of the firewall has me thinking on the master cylinder also . I will cut and shape it though to get it to work . They do have the right angle master pedal sets hydraulic clutch which will work too .

With the floor pedals some type of bell crank could be made easy enough if you want to keep the pedals there and use a cable . I am just trying what I hope may be easy application with hanging pedals..

Yeah, another Ford in a Ford!! If you're cutting the orignial firewall, you can hang a master cylinder on it. My old setup was that way with the C4 before I started this rebuild. We trimmed the old firewall enough to fit the 302 in there and left the rest in tact. I was running a Pinto MC without a power booster hooked to a brake pedal that was fashioned from some unknown Ford from the 70's or 80's. But with the rebuild, I've put in a new big block firewall for more clearance and a cleaner look. I'm trying to keep from putting things on it or through it. That big firewall also has a wider hump in the middle which limits gas pedal & brake pedal space when using the under the floor methods. I had to bend the brake pedal toward the outside of the car to make space for gas pedal. Thus, trying to configure a clutch pedal under there with it seems impossible if I also want the exhaust pipe on that side too. I'm studying the 90 degee under dash units now to see if there's something that will work with the space I have. If it doesn't, I can always revert back to my AOD plans. My x-member is already modified for the C4. That modification should also accomodate the T-5 by redrilling the holes for the mount. The AOD would require more trimming of the x-member.

I've been studying the T-5 threads on HAMB and various Mustang sites and they say you can move the T-5 shifter forward several inches on the Mustang T-5 by using the tailhousing from 83-93 chevy S-10. They also say 90-95 Mustang V8 T-5's have a higher torque rating. The 94-95 has a bit longer input shaft which requires you to use the 94-95 bellhousing with it but the overall length is supposed to be the same.

The 90 degree underdash units all have hydraulic clutches. I've found several links to change the T-5 to hydraulic clutch by simply adding a slave cylinder to the clutch fork. If you want links to any of this stuff let me know....I haven't bought anything yet but I'm doing lots of reading....LOL!

[bluestang67]

I've been studying the T-5 threads on HAMB and various Mustang sites and they say you can move the T-5 shifter forward several inches on the Mustang T-5 by using the tailhousing from 83-93 chevy S-10. They also say 90-95 Mustang V8 T-5's have a higher torque rating. The 94-95 has a bit longer input shaft which requires you to use the 94-95 bellhousing with it but the overall length is supposed to be the same.


Easy transfer on the trans tail shaft . If you seen the links from the H then you know of the speedo gear adaption you need to make . I did it to put it in the Model A , with the looks of the area in the 37 the original tail shaft may work from the WC T-5 which is the higher torque trans . The T-5 is a good street car trans but not for racing . Here is a pic where it ended up in the A with the S10 tail shaft . It is just in front of the seats by a few inches which is enough with the right shifter . If you want to know the exact measurement I can do that for you . I really think a stock T-5 will be just fine in the 37 with the eye ball room I see. . There is a lot of leg room in the 37 versus the 31 frame and body .

[randyr]

Ok fellas, I made a decision.....I'm going with the T5. In fact I bought one this week. It's freshly rebuilt by a reputable shop (have receipt), came with brand new clutch, new pressure plate, new flywheel and new Hurst billet short throw shifter, plus throwout bearing & pilot beariing. It was a package deal from a guy who put it together for his V8 Pinto but he sold the car before he got this installed. All I need are the pedals and a slave cylinder. I posted my C4 on Craigslist & and sold it in an hour. A guy is coming to buy my Lokar C4 shifter in the morning so it's been pretty smooth transistioning so far. Of course, I don't have it installed in the car yet either....LOL!

It appears that it will work best with the shifter in the original Mustang location rather than swapping tailshaft housings to move the shifter forward a few inches. That will require a little modification of the upper part of my Chassis engineering x-member kit. The lower part of the kit will have to be trimmed a little too and re-drill the holes for the trans mount.

The harder part will be redoing the pedals but I don't mind that so much because I really didn't like what I had already put together for the C4.
Will take some pics as I figure this thing out. It'll be a little extra work but I'm excited about it. Dave, as for driving a stick in LA traffic, I'm used to it...my daily driver Mazda pickup is a stick. As long as it's an easy clutch, I don't mind.

[34_40]

Ok fellas, I made a decision.....I'm going with the T5. In fact I bought one this week. It's freshly rebuilt by a reputable shop (have receipt), came with brand new clutch, new pressure plate, new flywheel and new Hurst billet short throw shifter, plus throwout bearing & pilot beariing. It was a package deal from a guy who put it together for his V8 Pinto but he sold the car before he got this installed. All I need are the pedals and a slave cylinder. I posted my C4 on Craigslist & and sold it in an hour. A guy is coming to buy my Lokar C4 shifter in the morning so it's been pretty smooth transistioning so far. Of course, I don't have it installed in the car yet either....LOL!

It'll be a little extra work but I'm excited about it. Dave, as for driving a stick in LA traffic, I'm used to it...my daily driver Mazda pickup is a stick. As long as it's an easy clutch, I don't mind.

That's Great! Sounds like a heckuvadeal too! Isn't it funny how a "deal" motivates us? I never planned on a 34 3 window. Then a chassis became available & the rest is history,LOL. While you won't need it, Good Luck with the swap! Keep us up to date when possible.

[bluestang67]

Yep Randy post up some pics when you get them . The more I see of a 37 the more familiar I will get . Carnut says there where over 800K of the 37s made but you sure don't see many build threads on them .

Also you can shrink the tunnel since your choice of a T5 to gain some pedal room .