True... Well found nothing on carnut. Oh well. Maybe someone else here may have one or something. Not sure on the dash idea but you may be right, might just stick with the gloss black. Right now I am going with the original idea unless I see a sweet flat black one. I am still sanding that damn dash down and not even close to half way done. I have two of em too and one will be hanging on my wall when I am done but that is last, I need to get the one for my car done and them primered.