Quote Originally Posted by shine View Post
gun laws do not work, never have. the cities with the most strict gun laws lead in gun violence . guns dont kill people , low life thugs do .
Yep, exactly. But you'll never convince the other side this. They think the guns are the evil wrong do-er when it is the end user. Take all the guns away and see how crime/death rates sky rocket. Chicago is a prime example. A state with some of the most strict gun laws in the nation and it isn't helping. Why? Because dirt bags are going to be dirt bags.