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:LOL::LOL: You're developing a reputation, Mike, aka The Bear-Poker!:LOL::LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by johnboy
So the end points of the road trip are defined, Oklahoma City to Cape Cod, about a month apart, right? Let the Planning Begin!!!;):LOL::LOL::whacked:
I would suggest you drive to Boston Logan instead of that flight there from Hyanis
Well.. I guess there are worse reputations to be had! And I have been called worse! LOL
Cape Cod is in my backyard so I'm hopeful our schedules can work..
Jerry, I'm curious what value you see this link providing to John & Rosie? I'm sure that Dave Schaub used something similar in planning his 49 states in less than nine days for charity, but what's the point here? Just curious, it's an interesting read, and no harm, no foul. Just wondering if I'm missing some point?Quote:
Originally Posted by jerry clayton
Nope not missing anything Roger--just thought interesting reading and possibly get a few folks to thinking about--as Doris Day sang"See the USA in your xxxxx-- In the article it talked about the distance driven and time to do this-really a longggggg trip and many places I still got to see- I have seen so much of the USA from 30-41,000 feet at 600 mph and lots from the road pasting by on the way to some race track that I really enjoy thinking up trips and seeing stuff at a more leisurely pace. Not some cruise ship, or some pool side room in a luxury hotel.
A few years ago we went on a trip that was nearly 8000 miles, took nearly 8000 pics, and went to see the USA. After visiting a few places such as Carlsbad Caverons, Grand Canyon, etc,etc-and guides saying 2oo million years ago??? I decided that we were really seeing a small portion of Mother Earth and about the only thing USA was view of Las Vegas from afar and Mt. Rushmore
So, sorry about the deversion, but I'm ready for another trip
Not a problem from my perspective. There are still a lot of places in the US that I/we have not visited, but I'd say that doing a trip like Schaub's where you blast through thousands of miles in short order just to say that you set foot in 49 of the 50 states would not be my cup of tea. I'd much prefer to go to an area/region, and spend a couple of weeks exploring to get the "feel" of the place, then go home and get ready for another adventure.Quote:
Originally Posted by jerry clayton
So jb, are you starting your list of "have to see" places, and a specific route for this trip, or are you winging it?
Roger--that write up did take 40+ days
...or more, and if you read to the end he got more negative comments than positive about the "plan". That concept would be of zero interest to me, but it's a moot point as this thread is for helping jb plan his trip, to the extent that he wants help. ;):LOL::LOL::LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by jerry clayton
We're finally going to visit Rushmore this summer................but not from the backside.............
Is that view from the other side??bummer.....:LOL::whacked::whacked::LOL:
Bugger!
Bit of a hiccough the other day. Got an e-mail from Dick saying that when he approached his boss regarding time off his boss told him that Ditch Witch have a zero tolerance policy on ‘unexplained absence’, no show -- no job.
So I rang him again. Susie is losing her job shortly, they’ve got a young baby, so we don’t want to see Dick out of work too.
He had mentioned the other day that when he was talking to his sister about the trip she had said “Tell him I’m a better driver than you are!” so I asked him if she was serious.
It appears she was.
Right; does she have the time, and will she do it?
It appears she has and she will.
Sweet.
So after an hiatus of a day or three we’ve got a change of driver.
All good again.
So I can get back to planning, thought it might have to be delayed.
John-I can accompany you on some of the trip if you need me--and since I'm retired air line I can fly free to anywhere United goes to either meet you folks or come back home----and I can get you into hospitality area at drag races
Dick's answer should have been, "It won't be 'unexplained absence' boss, it will be scheduled vacation and I've got 46 days on the books!" Now that said, his boss sent him a clear message that he didn't want him to be gone that long, and that he needed to make a choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnboy
I'm glad it worked out for you with the sister.
Im sure your friends in OKC took you to Pops while you were in the area but if they didn't make them take you this time - I think you would or did enjoy it - jaxx
We've collectively been working on a plan for our upcoming road trip, and we have a basic route in mind that we believe we can accomplish in the time that we've allocated, which gets us to several places that we really want to see. Our flights are already booked, so suggestions to start or end in different places are really of no value at this point, but we're keenly interested in any ideas for points of interest along the way, or even for shifting the route to see something special. We have very little interest in automobile racing, either events or history, but we do enjoy general industrial/agricultural/innovative mechanical history of all sorts. So, drag racing, NASCAR, and the Brickyard at Indy? We'll pass, but thanks anyway. Our tentative route:
1.Starting from Kansas City August 26th we'll head south to Joplin, MO where we'll pick up old RT 66 north to St Louis, a piece that we bypassed last trip in order to get to the car show in Kansas.
2.From St Louis we plan to take I64 east through Evansville, Indiana and drop down through Owensboro, KY to Bowling Green; OR continue east on I64 to the Louisville area. Not sure that the Corvette Museum and Mammoth Cavern National Park will make the cut for the MSL (must see list).
3.North through Cincinnati to Dayton, Ohio and the USAF museum.
4.North through Toledo to Dearborn, MI and the Henry Ford Museum, Greenfield Village and River Rouge. We'll plan to stay out away from the city and go in & out to POI's vs overnighting in Detroit area.
5.Toledo/Cleveland/Erie to Niagara Falls, a top item on the MSL .
6.Through Rochester, NY south through PA to catch Monticello, Mount Vernon and Washington DC attractions. We'll decide how much time we can give to the DC museums when we get there.
7.Up the coast by Baltimore, Philadelphia, and on towards Cape Cod.
8.September 26th we'll catch the aluminum cloud to San Francisco, and then our ANZ flight back to God Zone.
This is still a work in progress, and may change a bit based on good suggestions that come our way, but it gives a basic route that we think will work towards seeing this region of the USA.
Thoughts anyone?
Wright Patterson Air Force base outside of Dayton, Ohio will probably take all day< but if you have the time check into Carillon Historical Park in Dayton. Lot of interesting exhibits and Dayton was once home to the National Cash Register company and John Kettering who invented the automobile self starer as well as the Wright Brothers. I wouldn't venture into downtown Dayton though, it's become a slum. If you spend the night there are plenty of fine accommodations close to the airport.
Carillon Historical Park - Dayton History
Thanks Ken...good advice re accommodation especially!
Being a Missouri born & bred boy you could always see one of America's #1 toured small towns in Branson, pretty commercialized but if you haven't seen it the countryside is awesome, after that if you have never been a little North to the Speedway Motors museum in Lincoln Nebraska you can schedule a private tour and its awesome though more dedicated to the start of the automobile through performance from 1900 to present with a few million bucks in collections. You have said you traveled my favorite in route 66 but what states have you missed? I also have heard alot of good about the Steam O Rama being in the Ozarks to me is always a huge plus! Best of Luck Matthyj
You might consider this map concerning Route 66, it's not quite right though on the section between Joplin and Halltown on the way to Springfield. For all practical purposes the section between Carthage and Phelps is correct but between Phelps and Halltown there are parts of the original narrow 66 that isn't on that map. I could meet you in Joplin and show you what I mean.
The Mother Road: Historic Route 66 - Turn by Turn Road Description - Missouri
These two sections aren't on that map.
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I've met that young man in the first frame, leaning on the gasoline price sign! And it looks like he has the Mustang out for an afternoon cruise.
That last photo brings back a lot of memories to an old pump jockey. I pumped a lot of Texaco gas at 19.9¢/gallon at my Dad's service station from the time I was old enough to squeeze the pump handle until I left for college. The normal price was around 29.9¢, but there was always a gas war. He made money on service because there sure was no profit in selling gas.
I don't think it was quite that low when I passed by there in 1962.
I worked in my Dad's service stations (Dividend Bonded, Brilliant Bronze and Texaco) from about 1955 through 1961. I put up a lot of 19.9¢ signs out front in the early years.Quote:
Originally Posted by NTFDAY
Sorry jb, we digress.....
Sorry to say Gary from the Gay Parita station passed away and the station is no longer open, though I have heard there is a possibility his son may open it, I passed through less than a month ago... the one pic is Spencer and a section of the original route still exists there and its a ghost town (small) close to the Gay Parita station Don't forget also to go see Red Oak II outside Carthage built by famous artist Lowell Davis, he moved the town 30 miles or so and is a world class artist & nice guy, not on many maps anymore as he said they wanted him to pay to put it into books but he & his town are gems....Route 66 in Kansas is short but great as well with a ton of history, in Baxter Springs the restaurant was a bank robbed by Jesse James....Quote:
Originally Posted by NTFDAY
I've been helping jb work up his route and itinerary for this upcoming trip. Just to clarify, on their last trip jb & Rosie flew to Chicago and picked up a rental car there to run old Route 66 East to West. We had pre-arranged that they would deviate off of Route 66 to come up to Gardner, KS, timed to link up with the car show in Ottawa, the Old Marais River run. Rather than follow Route 66 across Missouri they elected to plug in our address as they were leaving St Louis, and the most efficient route was a straight shot across I70 as opposed to following the diagonal down to Joplin/Galena/Baxter Springs and then swinging north. As a result they "missed" the section from St Louis to Joplin & vicinity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthyj
So, this trip the plan is to leave the KC area and head south to the SE corner of Kansas, do the missed section of Route 66 from there to St Louis, and then in St Louis start working the zig-zag route to reach Cape Cod over the next thirty days, and ultimately Boston to ride the aluminum cloud home. End dates and locations are fixed. Heading NNE and then coming back to Missouri for Steam-O-Rama September 17 to 20 just doesn't work - gotta be in Boston 9/26 to catch the cloud.
Ken gave some really neat suggestions about the Dayton area, which may push towards arriving in that area, spending some time at the "other" historic areas, and then dedicating the next day to the AFB museum before heading on to the next overnight spot. It's jb's choice, but Ken's suggestions are excellent points for planning.
I remember, I remember. In 1966, I worked at the MFA gas station in front of the Katz Drug store on Glenstone Ave in Springfield, Mo. A lady in a red 64 Galaxie 500XL convertible came in and I managed to squeeze $5 worth of gas into the tank. Boss jumped my butt and said I ran gas on the ground....we looked under the car and no puddles....it really held $5 of gas. At some point a year earlier, I was buying gas at that same station for 15.9 cents per gallon. A buck would let you cruise and still get home. I remember people buying 25 cents of gas.....that's all they had in their pocket. Today, 25 cents would get you a whiff of the nozzle. But then, I was making $1 an hour at the MFA station. So a gallon of gas in 1966 at perhaps 21 cents per gallon meant I got paid the equivalent of $1/.21=4 3/4 gallons of gas. Today, at $2.78 per gallon, my equivalent hourly salary would need to be $13.23.... hmmm, I think I will take today's gas prices.
Johnboy, do you have any idea where you'll be the weekend of August 29th?
I have done all of 66 in MO and if he needs any help or must see's let me know, alot of beautiful country and interesting stops to see, alot of it is getting marked by the MO 66 society but he will need a 66 map as much of the ol' 66 is broken and shifts from one side of 44 to the other and is a little hard to find without a 66 map. Definetly hit Kansas as it a short but a excellent trip as Baxter Springs was the idea for Radiator Springs in the Cars movies, Galena has "Cars on the Route"a Kanotex station with the real 'Mater that Towmater in the movie was based on. Alot of theold wests outlaws hid out in this part of KS as they could skip into MO or even Indian Territory (now OK) to elude the law (all within mere miles), including the James gang, the Youngers, Belle Star and the Dalton gang and many museums tell their stories, and don't forget Bonnie & Clyde where their later as the house they shot up in Joplin is still there to see where they killed 2 police and left their famous pic's for the media as well as Mickey Mantles home in Commerce OK.
Can't help but tell this story, in the mid eighties my brother & I worked at a Conoco full service station, a guy with a 60's mustang came in said fill it up and my brother put about 18 gallons in the car, he came back out and questioned that much fuel when it held about 14 gallons, my brother showed him the pump, he said "whatever" and opened the door and gasoline fumes poured out! It seems as though his rear window leaked and he decided to drain the water and drilled a decent sized hole in the trunk floor, which on a mustang is the top of the gas tank, therefore the fuel when filled up poured into the car, he hopped in with gas everywhere and actually drove away!
Sounds like a lot of fun!!!
That is pretty crazy right there!
Where do you want us to be?Quote:
Originally Posted by 40FordDeluxe
I was just curious if it were a possibility to set up a small CHR dinner or meet while you were semi close to our portion of the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnboy
St Louis is going to be about the closest to Prairie City, Iowa you'll get, unless you change the plan..... that is unless you want to hook up in Kansas City before the jaunt south.....Quote:
Originally Posted by 40FordDeluxe
Can't promiss anything but you will be within 50 miles or so of me! Let me know the KC date and there is a possibility as I am sure you will be heading down I-49 (US 71) from KC
Not necessarily.... :HMMM: Could just as easy be US69 down to the Pittsburg/Galena area. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthyj
That's the purpose of this thread as I understand it, to get input from folks that may affect the route and make the overall trip a better experience. The starting date & place and the end point date & place are fixed and stated in Post #56, but most everything in the middle is a state of flux, subject to adjustment. John can correct me if I'm off base on this.
After St Louis-------go southeast to Nashville( Grand Old Opry) then I65 North to Bowling Green for Corvette musem and factory tour, Louisville (couple whiskey places enroute) on north to Indy for Indy 500 museum, east to Dayton for Air Force Museum, north to Detroit area, enter Canada to Niagra Falls( both sides)or Detroit back down and around lower side of Lake Erie to Niagra Falls, then southeast toward Washington area( I'd go toward Pittsburg from the falls then Gettysburg and then on to DC area ( some monuments /museums ya just gotta see ) a little further south to Richmond and then east to the coast line down by Newport News and Norfolk then rt 13 across the bay and along the coast ( After the first of September will not be too crowded) toward Atlantic City and then inland toward Philly( Liberty Bell) then on up toward the New York and beyond------
Well, just let me know where they'll be the 29th or when they'll be in KC. I need to go down to KC to pick up another frame so maybe I can do both in one trip.Quote:
Originally Posted by rspears
We'll be departing Dallas at 4:25 pm 26th August arriving KC later that arvo, (I do have an arrival time somewhere but can't find it at the moment,) meeting with Roger and Susan (and Bones,) overnighting with them, and departing around 8:00 - 8:30 am on the morning of the 27th, most probably US69 for Pittsburgh.
I'm told there's a porn shop on a corner there somewhere that I've got to visit. :HMMM:
At the moment I have absolutely no idea where we'll be on the 29th...it could very well be heading for Detroit...I just don't know where we'll be on any given day from KC onwards.
(Here in NZ we can sit on a beach and watch the sun rise in the east, hop in a car, drive for a few hours, sit on a beach and watch it set in the west...no problem.)
I'll try to keep this thread updated as we progress across your absolutely vast country, depending upon inter-web access.
