Feedback on paint graphics?

[HOTRODPAINT]

I posted this on another site, but would like your opinions here.

I did this work for a Veteran, who is now questioning how it might be received by enthusiasts. I think our age group tends to be more patriotic, so I told him I thought most would respond well to it.

It is non-traditional, but I think "making it your own" is a long established part of the hobby. However, other's opinions mean a lot to him. Let me know what you are thinking, and don't be shy.

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[t-top havoc]

For ANYONE to forget that day would be a travisty to America & Life in general!!

Interesting to see Old Glory being passed & shared by 2 of Americas Daily Heroes
in such a way!! Very touching!!

The 3 Eagles keeping watch!!

[t-top havoc]

PS
I like them
:-)

[M.T.]

What is it he thinks others might say?

[HOTRODPAINT]

I think he thought it should be more ghostly and hidden, instead of the degree of visibility it has. It is done in pearls, so in the sun it will be brighter. You can see how it gets more "silver" with direct light.

Do you think it is TOO bold?

[NTFDAY]

In my opinion it's not bold enough. The unpatriotic crowd can put it where the sun doesn't shine

[rspears]

I'm not a big fan of pictorial graphics on cars, but this one is nicely done and sends a good message IMO. I don't see that it adds appeal to the car, but I'd say the same regardless what subject was chosen. For someone who's in to graphics it's a nice job, a great message and not too bold.

[M.T.]

I think I fall more towards Roger's point of view than NFTDAY on this one. I'm more about drawing the attention to the car through the stance, quality of workmanship, and a really nice clean paint job. Ghost flames or images are good if found in a second look. When you start looking a car over closely and find ghost work its like finding eye candy, kinda like finding the last M&M stuck in the corner of the package they came in. Im not a big fan of rolling bill boards or theme cars for that matter especially now that wraps are stuck on everything. If its advertising I get it, paint it up! Personally I think its pretty strong and would have done it in Ghost.

Ive been thinking about this since you posted it up and Ive been wrestling with what it is that kinda of bugged me. I think it is having the image of the towers on fire? If I'm at a car show enjoying the day and my mind flashes to the towers on fire it just puts me in a downer mood? But I dont think it would have the same impact if the buildings were just standing there not on fire? With all that said I do get it and as ex military I totally understand where you are going with it and finally the art work is wonderfully done. You know what they say about opinions right? Opinion are like --- ----- and everybody has one. Press on and express yourself through your God given talent. If they dont like it they dont have to look. I learned along time ago that if I do something and I like it that is good enough for me! If you try to second guess what is going to be liked by everyone else you will never do anything!

[jerry clayton]

Well the tower view is about where I turned on tv that day---one tower burning and a few moments later I saw the other jet in the background and having flown in that area hundreds of times----knew and said to Robin that other plane is going to hit the other tower--------I knew the traffic patterns didn't operate where it wa sand about the time that exited my mouth, it banked sharply and dived toward the tower-----------later on I found that it was a plane I'd flown hundreds of hours over the years----got type rated on B767 in 1985-----
I could never bring myself to look to see if I had flown with any of the crew members---------There is a picture of the plane in my gallery----------


I probably wouldn't put it on a car----but an American brand pick up truck with a gun rack across back window--------------------

[mrmustang]

I'm sorry, but having personally lost friends and neighbors in the twin towers I'm going to take a completely different stance.


I think the artwork is in really poor taste. Something simple like a silhouette of the twin towers with the date and the words "Never forget" would work, maybe an American flag above it, or ghosted behind it, but to have the towers on fire, and a plane headed towards them is just wrong in my eyes. Same goes with the artwork of the firefighter surrounded by the wreckage ....Truly poor taste by the owner and the painter on this one.


Bill S.

[HOTRODPAINT]

I can understand that for people close to the disaster it would have been a traumatizing event!

I realized decades ago that my job is to help others take a concept that they decided on, and get it onto their project.

I do have limits to what I will do for an owner. I have always drawn the line at total nudity, and demonic subjects. An example would be skulls. I've done them a lot. If they are symbols for death or even comedy, no problem. I would however refuse if they wanted horns or fangs, or if they displayed evil in other ways.

One thing I did appreciate about his concept was that, following such a horrific happening, it told a story of the actions taken as a result of the attack. America might be built on loving and understanding Christian principles... but we also will not allow others to brutalize our country without paying a substantial price. I agreed to do this for that patriotic reason. (I lost a nephew over there to a roadside bomb.)

"Cars as art" ...it is sometimes personal.

[rspears]

After reading Bill's comment I have to say that I agree. The tower/airplane graphic is taking it too far, and the fireman surrounded by wreckage is very close to the limit of bad taste, too. Not saying that you as the artist did wrong, but the concept may be flawed? There are more tasteful ways to state the emotion.

[M.T.]

If you live in America anywhere it was traumatizing. Its one of those things most aren't very proud of and it makes me a little uncomfortable seeing it on a car? Especially being so loud? If it was a depiction of the solderers sitting on a tank watching the crowd pull down the statue of Saddam Hussein I think that would be more appropriate than the destruction of the twin towers on our ground. You have shown the pain but not the payback... That is where the solderers come into the scene. Being you asked... Maybe you need to draw another line?

[Whiplash23T]

Can I put a opinion in from somebody who is as far away from New York and the personal tragedy to those who lost loved ones. I believe 11th September 2001 will always be remembered for the horror of what mankind can to too mankind and for no other reason then hatred for something they don't have. I don't believe it is something that needs to be advertised on somebodies personal vehicle as a mobile memorial as there is enough Monuments dedicated to this event. We here in NZ just had a parade up the main street in Auckland honoring the sailors on the NZ flagged Battleship that helped sink the German Battleship in the Battle of River Platte in the second world war, we also have celibrated the anniversary of the unofficial truce between the UK and German forces too play a game of Foot ball on Christmas day back in 1914 WW1 so we do tend to remember inportant dates in history without everybody ramming it down your throat. The crying shame of all this is that the worlds Politicians are still all corrupt and greedy and haven't leanrt a darn lesson from history.

[HOTRODPAINT]

If this is too upsetting for the forum, I don't object to taking it down.

I had sent the question out to many of my car buddies, and I posted it on two forums. I found that about 80% who responded liked it... mostly for the patriotism involved... and some saw it as a tribute to those who died. The other 20% disliked it either because it was not traditional car art... or they critiqued the concept on the details chosen... or for some of the negative feelings about the attack that were voiced here.

The owner, being a Vet, chose it for the patriotic impact, and as a tribute. At least I can give him some input on what to expect from enthusiasts. Thanks guys. I've been doing this for others for over 40 years... but I am still learning about the public's perceptions. {:-)