i hate sitting here and typing in a long winded reply then hitting the reply button and my post goes away ..i drive my stang about 25 miles on my favorite cruise lap but it never is more than 10 miles in any one direction from home .. i have had to walk home several times because of it .. the pintos are no problem .. i still cruise them in the dead of winter ..there is no one to show off in front of but the drive is still fun ...