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Originally Posted by Evolvo

Well, Roger I guess it depends on how they acquired their property. Apparently it's not always on the up and up.........

FBI — White-Collar Crime

I haven't read any specifics listed on this sight. That's an awful lot of crimes to investigate, should keep them busy for a while, lots of job opportunities with the FBI. OCCUPY CHR

Alan, I'm really quite disappointed in your reply. First of all, I agree 100% with Shine - the question is not where they got their money, but what gives the government the right to steal from them just because they are above some magic threshold, in this case the 1%. Even if we entertained that diversion, are you really going to sit there and try to sell that the 1% got there by white collar crime?? Most of those white collar criminals are corporate minions who find ways to cheat the system, not CEO's and the Buffet group of high rollers.

Shine's dead on - how people get their money is not the issue, and that's a law enforcement issue, and the point that it may create positions for more law enforcement types at the FBI is moot. It may be "important", but it's not the question here. Besides, I doubt that any of the "Occupy" crowd could come close to qualifying for those positions with their "high cost degrees" in philosophy, poly sci, old english literature, and underwater basketweaving. I've still not heard one comment to justify the "Occupy" mindset relative to the 1% being tagged to pay the 99%.

Originally Posted by rspears

Besides, I doubt that any of the "Occupy" crowd could come close to qualifying for those positions with their "high cost degrees" in philosophy, poly sci, old english literature, and underwater basketweaving. .

Those are pretty good ones but the best I ever heard was a few years ago during a college football telecast. As the announcers were introducing the starting players for each team they were including each player's major. Most were typical except for one whose major was "Playground Activities". I would have never guessed that one had to have a college degree in order to teach kids how to play dodgeball.

Originally Posted by Evolvo

I'm surprised that you feel that no matter how the wealth was acquired, once they've got it, they get to keep it. Right on the FBI website it refers to Enron and what they did to their own employees pensions and customers. Oh well.
No one has really addressed what I feel is the most important issue today, that is what Robert Reich talks about in this article, here it is again if you missed it: Robert Reich (Occupiers Occupied: The Hijacking of the First Amendment) Corporations are people and money=speech!!!! Soon only the wealthy will be allowed to decide who runs the country. Wait, wait......it's too late, they already do.
I always read what others link, so I'd like to hear your response to this article.

Evolvo, I agree with you on two points, the thieves at Enron or Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac or even the Halls of Congress need to pay restitution! Start with Barney Frank!

And to your other point, "business or corporations" have the loudest voice now! Except when election time comes! Vote'em all out and let's start again I say. If we do it enough times we will all get our retirement for serving our term and we'll all have the best healthcare the gov't politicians get free of charge!

Originally Posted by Evolvo

Roger, I'm surprised that you feel that no matter how the wealth was acquired, once they've got it they get to keep it. Right on the FBI website it refers to Enron and what they did to their own employees pensions and customers. Oh well.
No one has really addressed what I feel is the most important issue today, that is what Robert Reich talks about in this article, here it is again if you missed it: Robert Reich (Occupiers Occupied: The Hijacking of the First Amendment) Corporations are people and money=speech!!!! Soon only the wealthy will be allowed to decide who runs the country. Wait, wait......it's too late, they already do.
So I'm gonna put in one more link. It's from the New Yorker Magazine, I subscribe, which won't surprise you I'm sure. Yes, it is progressive and reflects my values. That shouldn't be a surprise as most folks get their news and opinion from sources that do that, too. I think you'll find that it gives some insight into how today's political campaigns are run:
Larry McCarthy, Mitt Romney, and Restore Our Future Super PAC : The New Yorker
I always read what others link, so I'd like to hear your response to this article.


OCCUPY CHR

Alan,
You continue to try to divert attention from the question instead of giving an answer. Let's actually look at the 1%. According the the NY Times, ( http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/15/bu...pagewanted=all ) based on the most recent census data the "1%" includes a far wider group than most people believe, and is comprised of those households (not individuals) who have an annual income above $380,000. This includes almost all pro atheletes, corporate execs, and even some DINK's who pull down salary's in the $150k range (plus capital gains) all the way up to the Warren Buffet's. According to the article, "The top 1 percent of earners in a given year receives just under a fifth of the country’s pretax income, about double their share 30 years ago. They pay just over a fourth of all federal taxes, according to the Tax Policy Center. In 2007, they accounted for about 30 percent of philanthropic giving, according to Federal Reserve data. They received 22 percent of their income from capital gains, compared with 2 percent for everybody else."

So let's forget about the very small percentage that are scoflaws involved in white collar crime and concentrate on the wide range of normal, every day people who are putting in long hours, spending days each week away from home/family on business travel, the entrepreneurs who build companies from nothing, employing hundreds and thousands of average Joe's & Janes. One more time, what gives the government any right to target them to give up their hard earned money to give it to others? Simple question, and we can address your articles once you answer this simple question, or admit that there is no viable answer.