Thread: So who is really in the wrong here.

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IC2, if I understand things correctly, it is illegal to use a hand-held phone but legal for a bluetooth. Did I understand your post correctly?

When we drive, there are many things to distract us and not just a phone. When I drive, I tend to look for stock cars and old cars, especially when I am in new areas. That is one of the reasons of why I have my Hudson Metropolitan. It was sitting along I70. When I am in town, I look at the vehicles around me and wave at the people I know, and as a pastor, I do know a few. I have had people come up to me and complain because I ignored them instead of waving. They were giving me a hard time and really weren't ticked, at least I don't think they were. These are also examples of distracted driving.

I know that I could drive safer, but also know that even when I'm driving with my bad habits, I am a lot safer driver than many people around me. That also does not mean that what I do is less of a danger than something else because when you are behind the wheel, anything can happen. I got rear ended once because I slowed down with traffic to drive over debris from an accident. The kid who hit me totaled his chevy truck by running into the back of my f150.

I am also one who put off getting a cell phone. We fist got one for my wife because she was traveling a lot and wanted her to have a way to contact me if she had any problems. I ended up with one about 5 years later and refuse to text. Heck, I refuse to get the internet because don't care to surf the web on a screen that small. I have called 911 numerous times while driving including reporting a teen doing about 70 going uphill in the wrong lane of traffic. I was able to give the license number to the police and noticed that the car disappeared for about 3 months. I will admit that the phones being used while driving are a bad habit and cause more issues than they help, but there are instances where they do good. If using a phone, I think the bluetooth should be the only option because to me, that is no different than talking to somebody in the car. I am guessing that every one of us who is married talks to our spouse while we drive, at least I know that I do.

From experience, I am glad to have my phone because I have had to leave Wichita for Salina earlier than planned because I received a call that somebody was dying. I have also received calls that somebody was in the hospital and so made a detour to there instead of going home and getting a message and then have to drive back down. But I also don't talk when in a business and being waited on. I silence the ringer and return the call when done. I know that I am in the minority on this one, but I do think that there are safer ways of using the phone. As far as texting goes, there is no safe way to text and drive.

Originally Posted by pastor bubba

IC2, if I understand things correctly, it is illegal to use a hand-held phone but legal for a bluetooth. Did I understand your post correctly?

That's correct - and the idiots STILL persist in using the hand helds.

We've had one for maybe 8-10 years. The only time that it's used is if our landline is out (like today) or when we are traveling, i.e., emergency use. In those years, probably no more then 25 hours total use. We never do texting, never check the internet on that itty bitty screen (I'm also too cheap). The plan that we have now is a "seniors" plan, 200 minutes/month and nationwide for about $30 + tax plus the phone has a camera (whoopee).

Back to Uncle Bob's comment - you forgot one extremely important word in today's world, ENTITLEMENT. I'm not going political, but there are certain factions in the US fabric of today that feel that they are due, and if someone else has to pay for it, tough, not my problem

We have that issue with entitlement around here as well. Take that lady who shot her kids and herself because she didn't give enough info to get foodstamps but her daughter was posting about it on facebook or something like that. If you don't have money for food, then you don't need a cell phone, especially one that is on the internet.

Originally Posted by IC2

That's correct - and the idiots STILL persist in using the hand helds.

We've had one for maybe 8-10 years. The only time that it's used is if our landline is out (like today) or when we are traveling, i.e., emergency use. In those years, probably no more then 25 hours total use. We never do texting, never check the internet on that itty bitty screen (I'm also too cheap). The plan that we have now is a "seniors" plan, 200 minutes/month and nationwide for about $30 + tax plus the phone has a camera (whoopee).

Back to Uncle Bob's comment - you forgot one extremely important word in today's world, ENTITLEMENT. I'm not going political, but there are certain factions in the US fabric of today that feel that they are due, and if someone else has to pay for it, tough, not my problem

Same down here..Illegal to use a hand held(but everyone still does),,but okay for bluetooth or a regular hands free kit,,which in my opinion is no better/different to holding the darn thing..Your attention is still taken away from your driving..

TWO school buses crashed into the rear of the previous accident, and the media focuses on the kid texting???