Thread: Rick Hendrick's plane slid off runway

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Did you guys hear about this one??.

Plane carrying Rick Hendrick slides off runway; all aboard OK - From the Marbles - NASCAR*Blog - Yahoo! Sports

Sounds like Hendrick as well as Jack Roush don't have the best luck while flying. He evidently did get hurt - rib and collarbone break.

Another - Hendrick, wife return to N.C. after plane crash | www.thatsracin.com

I think it is way past time that someone talks too Rick Hendrick's group of people about qualifications of pilots, air craft maintenance, etc

Maybe the whole Nascar and other race groups also---there are enough aircraft involved to make a pretty big airline and evidently no body checking out anything

It does seem that neither was belted in give their injuries.That plane is jointly own by Jimmie and Rick.Yeah where is the FAA in things like this happening??.

Originally Posted by 1gary

It does seem that neither was belted in give their injuries.That plane is jointly own by Jimmie and Rick.Yeah where is the FAA in things like this happening??.

I could be wrong, but I don't believe that the FAA has anything to do with airlines rules regarding seat belts and other rules related to how passengers conduct themselves. Those rules are driven by airline liability, and the potential for lawsuits against from the idiots who don't use/have common sense. Private planes have strict requirements regarding mechanical and airframe inspections and procedures, but the use of the plane, and how people conduct themselves on private planes is not regulated, and I'm not sure I would want to see it change.

I wonder if that plane had CF brakes.

If you mean carbon fiber----good possibility

It was pilot error--probably from inexperience and not a pair of pilots working as a CREW---high speed approach, landing long, run off the end of runway

runway 2 1/2 feet above sea level, 4800 ft long, probably touched down 1000-1500 feet , no reverse thrust, didn't have stopping room--remember jet engines put out an amazing amount of thrust even at idle, so stopping it was marginal at best---issues here other than BRAKE FAILURE---

I heard Happy Harvick was bump drafting them in his plane---them guys will do anything to win a championship, ya know?????

Originally Posted by pro70z28

I wonder if that plane had CF brakes.

I guess that would have been a better NFC joke than a NASCAR joke. NFC guys are putting up a fuss about mandated CF brakes.

Originally Posted by rspears

I could be wrong, but I don't believe that the FAA has anything to do with airlines rules regarding seat belts and other rules related to how passengers conduct themselves. Those rules are driven by airline liability, and the potential for lawsuits against from the idiots who don't use/have common sense. Private planes have strict requirements regarding mechanical and airframe inspections and procedures, but the use of the plane, and how people conduct themselves on private planes is not regulated, and I'm not sure I would want to see it change.

I should have written this better.I didn't mean to say the FAA has anything to do with being belted in,but more to do with the brakes.The years spent at Burlington Air Express taught me the FAA is more geared towards the regular airlines than cargo or private planes.One example of that was Kalitta Flying Service worked for BAX as a contractor.For yrs one plane would fly into Roch and after landing and the engineer had to come out with a rubber mallet to pound back the veins back in place for the reverser so the cowling would move back.The FAA staffing is pretty thin.Only time I saw a car from them on our side of the airport was to approve flying a forklift damaged plane with 200mph duct tape back to get repaired.

There are different areas of FAA---There is Part 121 carriers, part 141, Part 61, Part91, etc, etc---maintenance requirements vary between them---for instance---a part 121 operation has specific duty /flight times for crew rest provisions---Kalitta flys freight off someplace far away for $$$$$$, then because crew is out of time(or will be by the time they get to next landing) will fly the a/c as a ferry flight(should be fairy!!!!!) to the next place----they crashed a DC8 in Havana because they were all too tired to function---

Thrust reversers aren't required or used for certifying a/c stopping distances---

The runways at that time in Roch where pretty short.Reverse's use was common place. Kalitta's planes where DC8 mainly.As a OPS agent one responsibility was to be in-charge of ramp operations.I was very aware of duty times for the crews because Roch was often a fly threw city where Roch shared a airplane with a terminating city.The turn times and any delays where charged back to the Roch station.$15,000 for any delay and was rated that way for each 15 minutes.I gained a real sense for time because of that.

I do think that learned sense of time made me a better bracket racer.

Timing is everything, EYW had just finished a Runway Safety Area Improvement project that got rid of a salt pond and an embankment that were about 100 feet from the threshold. Would have been a different outcome without having a decent RSA! Going the other direction they also installed an EMAS to alleviate the lack of a standard RSA.

In the Key West political scene, getting that project for the airport was akin to moving the capital to EYW!

But in general, Remember that you might be on an airplane that can benefit from the extra open space when the airport near you goes looking for an RSA improvement or runway extension project.