Thanks Bob----thats what I was talking about!!!

There are some fabulus pilots out there from that era of props to swept wing jets-----

About the most harrowing thing I been thru was on a training flight on a B720---the instructor pilot was an ex Air Force test pilot who of course was too old to get hired by the airlines as a line pilot but they did hire those guys for instructors. Usually on a training flight there would be 2 crews and would switch positions during the flight. The pilot getting an upgrade from flight engineer to co pilot was having a lot of trouble with dutch rolls on approach however at this time the lesson was to show that a swept wing jet stalled from the wing tips inward---to proove this, they pull the circuit breaker on the stall warning/stick shaker and just keep getting slower and slower until the aircraft pitches nose up , proving that the wingtips lost there lift first---well just as this happened , the co pilot thought he was getting a dutch roll (aircraft yaws and as the swept wing swings more directly into flight path causes a roll) and he stepped on the rudder just as the a/c stalled---this instantly sort of snap rolled the a/c over into a spin which the instructor pilot said" I have it" and very smoothly executed a recovery from the snap and one turn spin all the while I was standing in the cockpit door pouring coffee for the other trainees--never spilled a drop however even tho we were flying east and recovered east we did go from 28000 to 14000 feet altitude----

Copilot got extra similator time!!!!!!

Jerry