Thread: Look what's on Ebay!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Let's see......crappy pictures (except the head light one), price higher than balls on a giraffe, and a suede shoe dealership.............................I'm surprised.........shocked even, that he hasn't even had an offer.

Looks like he edited the BIN price four days ago, so he was probably even HIGHER priced to start with. I'll bet he's gotten a lot of emails blasting him on the year, and some of the other details from folks who know the truth. Obviously he won't choose to post them to the listing.......................hmmmmmm, I wonder what it would do to his day if he got a couple hundred all of a sudden?

Bob, I guess he doesn't realize that the car has been seen on numerous forums I am on, and the power of the internet. Maybe someday it will be found in a barn and bring some REAL MONEY!!

Don

It wouldn't surprise me if the guy you sold it to put it into consignment, dealers like this guy often don't like to tie up their own money unless they can steal a car.................the old dealer addage is "you make your money on the buy not the sell". Not asking you to divulge your business, but dealers like this like to make about $5k over what the customer wants (at least to start with). Since they appeal to a different kind of buyer in most case, maybe offer financing, and so forth, they can pull a little better price than private parties. In his mind, if the seller told him the truth, the real story didn't sound "sexy" enough, so he called the Grimm Bros. to write up the one he's using.

Since you said the guy never even drove the car before buying, it is possible once he dropped his butt in the seat and actually put some miles on it figured out he didn't like the reality, vs his vision on how it would be, to live with this kind of car (kinda like some women I've known). Roadsters, and T buckets in particular, take a certain kind of "attitude" to enjoy for more than a few minutes, as you know. In our house we call it "roadster attitude". Wind buffeting, sun, noise (even moreso fenderless), no A/C (well, unless you're an old timer from NY), and often cramped footwells................just isn't meant for some folks.

I sent a question asking if there is documentation that the car was built in California. It will be interesting if I get an answer.

Bob, I think you may have hit the nail on the head. You are either a roadster guy or not, and while they look great it takes a certain kind of person to want to actually drive one. You have to put up with rain, wind, bugs hitting you at 60 mph and less than roomy accomodations. The guy was much taller than me and the one time I did speak to him he did mention that on the Interstate it was "windy." I bet he has consigned it, like you suggest.

NTF, I bet you get no response back. Unless they moved Ft Myers to LA overnight, I think he was a little incorrect in that statement.

Don

Having driven my T all over england in all sorts of weather i can truthfully say i know what your saying Don !!!

Originally Posted by Itoldyouso

Bob, I think you may have hit the nail on the head. You are either a roadster guy or not, and while they look great it takes a certain kind of person to want to actually drive one. You have to put up with rain, wind, bugs hitting you at 60 mph and less than roomy accomodations. The guy was much taller than me and the one time I did speak to him he did mention that on the Interstate it was "windy." I bet he has consigned it, like you suggest.

NTF, I bet you get no response back. Unless they moved Ft Myers to LA overnight, I think he was a little incorrect in that statement.

Don

.....ahhhhh nothing like a June bug bouncing off my receding hair line.

When my car was upholstered, the tech used the usual jute padding under the carpet. I had him remove it and put in some waterproof stuff called Volara that I supplied.

I have to say with a fenderless roadster, every left turn on a wet road is an adventure in getting a freshly washed face with muddy/greasy water --- and the main reason this car has fenders.

What is it they say, "Coupes are for chickens"?


Don

Hey Dave i well remember driving my T in the rain, every left turn feels like someone threw a bucket of water in my face I can laugh now !!!

Originally Posted by IC2

.....ahhhhh nothing like a June bug bouncing off my receding hair line.

When my car was upholstered, the tech used the usual jute padding under the carpet. I had him remove it and put in some waterproof stuff called Volara that I supplied.

I have to say with a fenderless roadster, every left turn on a wet road is an adventure in getting a freshly washed face with muddy/greasy water --- and the main reason this car has fenders.

Hi Guys, I just called the dealer and talked to one of the salesmen. Told him I wanted a little more history on the car. Long story short he admitted that he thought the car was built in a shop in Coral Gables Fl. but was built to the Cal. style cars. I thanked him for clearing that up then told him I was just having a little fun and that I was familiar with the builder and knew all along where the car was built. I also told him that the selling price was a bit more than 1/2 the build price. He then thanked me for clearing a few more things up and that he would talk the the dealer about changing the description to fit the actual facts. Since there are only a few hours left to the auction I will assume that will happen for the next go around.

Jack.

P.S. I also mentioned that the builder and the guys on the forum were getting a kick out of the Ebay add.

On ya Jack,,I hope he realises that hes being watched,and he needs to be a bit more honest,the internet could drop him in it ,,big time..I wonder how many more of his customers have seen their cars with phoney descriptions??

Don, at least whoever eventually ends up with it will be getting a quality build….not always the case with a lot of the cars sold thru “classis/collectable” car dealers.

I’ve got a mechanic friend who works for one of these places and it’s kind of funny/sad about the “quality” of some of the stuff they get even from places even like the BJ auctions. I’ve been thru the show room more than once and seen some first rate cars and along with polished turds , but bottom line of the place is to turn a profit.

Something to take with a grain of salt about these places is that the guys like a majority of the people on this board (the guys who actually BUILD the cars, either professionally or as a hobby) are NOT their targeted clientele. Let’s face it while we might go into one of these places to look around see what they have or what things are going for we aren’t going to be spending a dime with them.

Their target audience are the high buck collectors (if they actually have anything of that quality) and/or the first or second time collector car buyer. The guy who now has a little spendable income and; wants to relive his youth, have the mis-spent youth he never had, or having a collector car is the latest accessory to his life style. As long as he is happy with his purchase it’s a successful sale ......even if the buyer could have done far better if he had the knowledge and time to actually find a better car at a realistic price.

Guys like myself and I suspect a majority of people on this board who build cars know what we have in them and also where all the flaws are……and usually are honest enough go out of our way to point those flaws out…..basically we would starve as used cars salesmen.

It is aggravating to see someone knowing try to pass something as something it isn’t… but it’s an unfortunate part of the hobby. It still goes back to buyer being responsible for doing his own research and then deciding what’s right for him.

That's funny, you actually spoke to them! I really have no axe to grind on this deal, the buyer treated me fairly and the money showed up immediately. I got what I thought was fair in today's market and what I would accept to let it go.

My one concern was that people who didn't know I had sold the car 3 months ago might be thinking it was ME selling it now and telling a tall tale to get more money out of it. But at least I had my 15 minutes of fame as a "Professional California Car Builder". (BTW, on the first of February my rates are going up..........and I have a 2 year waiting line)

Don

Oh thanks Mr Don Foooose, that will give another 2 years to save the required $3000.00 or under for you to build my California Hot Rod 1915 Ford to park beside my 1923 one.

Sorry for the mis info! the car was built in Florida......Just looks like the California styles we have seen.....The correct wording should have been Old school California style ........Just wondering does it change the value?

Regards
Michael



- idealclassiccars

This is the reply I received. Does it change the value?