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Well I got took again but with all the items I have bought off ebay this is the third I got took on so I guess its not so bad,I thought I was getting a somewhat correct jack for my 37 chevy p/u but its for a latemodel. The pics were dark and I really could not tell so I should of asked for more clearer pics so its partly my fault,I contacted the seller and have not heard back so maybe we will get it cleared up but I know its not worth shipping back.
We've all bought something on Ebay that didn't turn out as described, or that some crooked seller never shipped. But like you most of my experiences have been positive.
Don
The seller is real close to loosing their 100 percent positive feedback over this deal,since I paid with paypal I might have some help but will see if I get a response back from the seller first. I probably paid too much in shipping for it and if I would have to pay the same to ship it back to get 30 dollars I will take a loss and just deal with it.
Over the years I have read a lot of complaints,but it all comes down to using common sense.I have a 100% rating also but I always post clear pictures with my ads and promptly answer questions from buyers and always save responses till a deal is completed and feedback is left, always CYA! As a buyer sometimes we want a item so bad we fail to see "red flags" if a picture is not clear,or you ask a question and you get an off the wall answer or it is long in coming,don't bid! and always go back in time on the sellers feedback.I have sent pms to previous buyers to check on their satisfaction after the sale before I buy.Some people place ads for things and they have no clue what they fit so they post it 'cause their buddy says"that's for a '54 Kaiser" when in fact it may be for a '51 Chevy.:rolleyes:
I think Ebay is trying to clean up some of their bad press lately by making some changes. One complaint has been that the PayPal protection sucks, but I was just involved in a transaction where they went way beyond and helped a guy out.
In July a boat was towed into our marina broken down. Long story short a young guy bought it on Ebay and was driving it home via water when it crapped out. We diagnosed it and the engine was really shot and the outdrive was starting to develop cracks. The guy told me he bought it on Ebay and had just picked it up. I told him to contact Ebay, but he had only paid $ 500.00 through PayPal as a deposit and gave the guy $ 3300.00 CASH when he picked it up. :eek: I figured he was screwed, but wrote him a letter so he could present it to Ebay. In it I outlined that the boat was not in the condition it was advertised at, and that it would take a minimum of $ 10K to make it right.
A few weeks later the guy called me and said PayPals insurance company had cut him a check for the full $ 3800.00 and he even got to keep the boat!:eek: He just wanted it gone so he gave it away. I guess all the heat coming down on Ebay from shows like Dateline and 60 Minutes are making them be more responsive.
Don
In this case I got a little over 50 dollars in a jack I could of picked up at the local junkyards for 5 to 20 dollars so its not like I am out big money,I got looking around in the garage and found a old vintage jack that does not have a handle so I will use the folding handle that came with the one in question so at least I can use something from this deal. So far the seller has not contacted me so if I dont hear something in a couple days I will be contacting paypal and see if I can get some of my money back.
My LAST transaction with eBay was a real scam....and it was a buyer scamming me.... Sold him a pair of Mustang spindles, he specified UPS for delivery.... Well, got the delivery confirmation from UPS, the guy swore up and down to Pay Pal that I hadn't sent them to him.... As with many deliveries, nobody was home so UPS left them at the door.... Anyway, Pay Pal gave the clown his money back--taken out of my account, of course.... I did all the shipping stuff by their rules, but the guy was just flat a liar.... Also, he waited til like 2 weeks after his parts were delivered to file his "claim. After a bit of "research" I finally got the guys phone number and called him up to tell him to please either send me my spindles or my money..... He told me "no way, but thanks"!!!!!
Buyer protection is good....but the seller needs a bit of protection, too. Ebay went the other way now... The seller is at fault unless he can prove he isn't.... As with many things I just chose to avoid any further conflicts and moved all my for sale stuff over to Racing Junk and Craigslist....
And, as a "persoanl payback" to eBay and Pay Pal, I still go thru the eBay site to look for killer deals on parts....then I contact the seller--primarily the one's with the "eBay stores", by phone to arrange a deal not involving all the Pay Pal and eBay fees..... So far, not a single seller has declined to make an offline deal...... I've also discovered that once you conclude the deal offline, the shipping rate is usually quite a bit lower....hmmmmm.
Dave, did you have delivery conformation on those spindles?.. that's wrong what he did... 1 better would be signature required shipments
So far all I have done is bought stuff and the first two issues I got nothing but this time at least I got something but not what it was described.
I buy and sell.. few weeks ago I got burned on some laptop batteries. bought 3 BN OEM IBM 600 series batteries for the price of 1 aftermarket.. when they got to my house, 2 of the batteries were new, had warranty tags and last over 1hr per charge. there were actully 4 batteries in the box even tho I bought 3... the other 2 batteries were dead flat, obviously used and took no charge. contacted seller and he said he would refund if I sent all of them back at my expense.. no partial refund for the 2 dead batteries.. and I checked the batteries on 2 diffrent 600 series laptops.. but it was still a good deal so I'll dispose of the junk batteries.
Sure, UPS said they delivered them, but had no signature, so I had no "proof" that would satisfy Pay Pal.... Believe me, I tried everything but because there was no signature for the delivery from the buyer, I was screwed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt167
You have his name and address, now all you need is a friend in his area.
that sucks.. when you buy the shipping, you can require a signature but it costs extraQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave Severson
Yeah, I do bone....He's out East, but I probably need to go to South Carolina and visit an old buddy out there someday, this dude's house is sorth of along the way....might stop in and say hi......:mad::mad::mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by 61bone
I found that out, Matt.... That's how Pay Pal justified taking the money out of my account, no signature from the buyer "proving" that he got it.... Oh well, I'm sure loosing my business was no big deal to them..... Worst thing about all this electronic stuff, when somebody figures out a new system, 10 guys figure ways to work a scam within that system.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt167
Adding "signature required" is usually under $2 USPS or UPS good deal for the price and peace of mind.
yea.. if it was my site, or I was responsible, I would have called the delivery conformation proof enough.. seems as tho even if he didn't get it, and it was stolen from his doorstep. after UPS delivered that would not be the sellers fault, nor UPS's and would fall in the hands of house insurance or theft insurance if they had itQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave Severson
Well, regardless of the reasons for losing my spindles and my money, my fault, their fault nobody's fault it doesn't really matter.... If I have to go through a bunch of crap just to make sure I don't get ripped off, I just choose to not do anymore business there....simple as that.... I got along fine getting parts before eBay came to life and I'm sure I will again....just don't need the hassle.
I just shipped things I just sold, and USPS is .70 for confirmation, and you get a tracking number. That's the minimum I send things off with.
I sent a set of Weber carbs to Australia, and took a check, I just don't ship till the money is in my bank! Not the check, the money. I have not been burned, I was given a stolen cashiers check for my '57 Chevy, but I don't ship till the money is in my bank. I now have a $5700.00 check, and the 57 which I sold on ebay. And then I bought a '68 El Camino off ebay, which I also sold on ebay.
I bought my '87 Mustang off Auto Trader .com and was burned, but I only sent a down payment, and when I got there I told him I was not going to pay what he wanted, then drove it home. rebuilt it then sold it later on ebay.
You just need to use comon sence about it, if they can rip you off, some will! I have a 100% postive and I have bought and sold alot on there since they 1st started Ebay, and will keep on doing it.
Pat
yea. I got my truck on Ebay, and people are asking about deals off Ebay.. I'll shut down the auction with a nice deposit in my paypal and an agreement to pay what I want for it, and I'll end up making moreQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave Severson
Craigs list is getting more response around are area lately,Seem to have better luck.
Craigslist has done alright for me! Sold a couple things and found some killer deals locally----on used parts especially I still prefer local so that I can go there, do the see, feel, touch thing and know exactly what I'm getting... For mail orders, I pretty much back to Speedway, Sumitt, Jegs, and a few others---bought from all of them for many years and never had any problems with product, returns, credits or anything else. This electronic world is ok I guess....but there are just way too many scams out there I just don't see any reason to take the risk anymore....
Fed ex and ups don't care Dave, Even if it said it needed someone to sign.
I had a go around with both them companies about leaveing stuff on my door step with out some one signing. The VA Hospital has UPS deliveer stuff and they get over booked so they get Fedex to do it for them. They just drop it on the door step and leave.
They tried to blame it on the VA but the VA has it in thier computer that they must have someone sign. But nope three times in a row they dropped Morphine on my door step with no one home. I was in the hospital two of the times.
Now what would have happened if some kid got a hold of it and killed himself.
My names on the bottles, They piss me off, they act like it's no big deal.
They put people in danger and are costing other people money.
I guess good help is hard to find. Kurt
Jeff, you ever need any parts for you 37 let me know. I have alot of parts from my 37 and might be able to help. Sold alot of parts, but still have some left over. Bart
I recently saw a program on TV about Ebay and one segment was about these two guys who bought some $ 1500.00 piece of equipment from a guy who turned out to be an Ebay scammer. Paypal didn't do anything so these two took him to small claims court and the judge threw the book at the guy. They got their judgement and the scammer got a strong scolding.
They may never collect on that judgement, but they at least didn't take it laying down. That is the problem, most people just roll over and don't fight back when this happens.
Don
And then they blame Ebay!Quote:
Originally Posted by Itoldyouso
Pat
My lovely wife has an Ebay business. She sells, among other things, books. In fact, she has sold over NINE THOUSAND books.
For the most part she is okay with Ebay and Pay pal. Aw, she has had her squawks with them and a few times she has gotten thoroughly PO'ed at them but they got things worked out.
Like other businesses that ship lots of orders, she is prouder'n hell of her 100% positive feedback record. Maybe the maddest I ever saw her about something (I mean, about something other than me) was the time she got a feedback from some old hen that said "Well, (the product) was as advertised, but I could have gotten it cheaper at Wal-Mart"
so Ebay hit her with a negative feedback. Oh, boy! She was ready to go find a "hit man" to take of the situation. She raised a big enough stink to cause Ebay to give her back her 100% record.
I have used Craig's List for parts and large stuff with no problems. In fact, I have met some good guys when they came to pick things up.
Jim
Boy that's the truth! I'm trying to find a retal home and the amount of scammers on Craigslist is just too much! I've found a few homes for a decent price and when I get the address I usually go to public records and sure enough they don't even own the home thats listed. You sure have to stay on your toes!.........CRQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave Severson
many say..
"I'll never do business with E-bay".....
we do all know who owns a 28% stake in Craigslist.... right??
Lot
And when the guy is 5 states away and the value of the item was $80.00... Just how much time and expense should i go to to take this guy to small claims court???? If it's local, easy to do....1,000 miles away, what do you do??? Can't do a small claims court by mail....Filining fees alone would exceed the items value...and most of the scammers know this....Quote:
Originally Posted by Itoldyouso
Nope, I blamed Pay Pal...,., it's there new criteria that puts the burden of proof on the seller, and assumes that all the buyers are the victims,......Quote:
Originally Posted by HemiTCoupe
I cant think of anything I need but I know someone building one that might need some parts.Quote:
Originally Posted by chevy 37
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Originally Posted by Dave Severson
It sounds like in your 1st post you blame both Ebay & Paypal. You should have paid the 70 cents and got a "delivery conformation" I ship all the time and never have a problem. There is no "their shipping rules!" It's common sense, it doesn't matter where you buy something from or ship it to, it's how "you" make sure someone doesn't rip you off!
I just bought some parts for my chainsaw, and they sent something that wasn't even close to my parts. They would not answer e-mails so I reported it to paypal and they pulled my money from them till he resent the right parts, then when I told paypal they resent the right parts, they gave back my money to them. I have even returned item's I have bought because they were'nt in the shape they said they were in.
My brother has a web site and sales turbo's and racing parts, we ship all over the world, and we don't get riped off, because we do it by our rules, not by what someone else say's! everything has a traking number & insured.
Ebay & Paypal didn't do anything wrong. The guy you sold to did, because you left the window open for him to do so.
Pat
Well, I'm sure you're right, eBay and Pay Pal never do anything wrong..
Nevertheless, I don't do any business there anymore....