Thread: did you feel it

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You know guys ive been kinda worried about the future of the country lately and this has prompted me to ask a few questions. I know we all get on here and comment on the cool changes our new fearless leader is throwing at us, but what do you guys really think the outcome is going to be?

Im not really a professional when it comes to politics and i dont claim to understand how it really works. Im smart enough to see thru the lies and question they`re intent. Some of you guys have been thru a few presidents and have seen the ups and downs of this nation, so do you think this is really the final decent of our beloved country?

Im not looking for finger pointing or side blaming, were in the hole regardless of who put us there, but do you guys think we`ll pull out of this one or are we really doomed?

John, I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this as I've been warning about this phoney CO2 stuff for a few years and believe it falls on deaf ears. While I'm no fan of Pres. Obama he's not the only one. There is a Congress that has a role as well. That's part of the foolishness spouted anytime someone starts or ends a sentence with "......the last 8 years.....". They're just partisan parrots who also spout stuff like "all those people who participated in the tax day tea parties are racist". Facts don't matter to people like that, and I believe they're either too lazy or incapable of rational thought and discussion. If any of the bills that are floating around in Congress get passed, coupled with the unilateral power now bestowed on career bureaucrats at EPA, we're looking at serious restrictions on our lifestyles, usurpation of private property rights, and soaring fuel and utility bills. Businesses will be forced to compete on unlevel playing fields with foreign suppliers. (The first response there will be tariffs which will spawn trade wars that will cost jobs as well). Too much of American industry has sold it's soul to the political class that we can't rely on them to put up a good fight. For one example look at GE, a total sell out because they hoped to have their political buddies erect legislated walls that would prevent competition. Small business federations will attempt to put up a fight, but will be greatly out numbered. The Federal Government offices tasked with projecting (usually underestimating reality) expected economic impacts of legislation have already guessed that any of the proposed Cap and Trade regimes would raise "average" home utility bills by as much as $3000 per year, and other fuel costs by as much as $4000 per year. Even if you cut those numbers in half that takes a big bite out of the average family budget. Since you'll pay more for something you already get, and NEED, you have to trim other things from your budget. If you're some rich Hollywood type, no big deal. For those of us way down here in real middle class land it's a bunch. How many jobs supplying those things that millions of households will have to cut will be shed. None of this will happen in one days time, but will bleed into the system over a period of time. The politicians know they have to poison you slowly so as not to rile you up. They also have all the investment in propaganda over the past couple decades so that they can blame the oil companies for motor fuel price hikes, and a whole cast of evil corporations for the rest, oh, and don't forget Wall Street. Anybody but themselves, and their pals in the media will back stop them.............just listen to how they're attacking all those normal citizens who had the gall to protest on Wednesday. It's a large and sadly effective hate machine.

It's hard for me to be positive about any of this as I would prefer to be. I've come to the point where I feel that all of those folks who wouldn't listen when we were warning them all these years should just have to take a lickin' .................they deserve it. The rest of us will just have to do what we've always done, figure out a way to survive in spite of it.

Amen Bob....The attempt to reduce CO2 won't be an overnight thing anyway. EPA has merely put a dent in slowing down the production of hydrocarbons and they started trying to reduce them in the 60's with the introduction of the PCV system in 1963. The whole world is pumping out hydrocarbons still today.