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06-28-2008 04:59 AM #1
55 MPH rearing it UGLY head again?
Saw this question on MSN this morning......
"....Tell us: Should we bring back 55 mph law to save gas?....."
( http://moneycentral.msn.com/communit...hreadid=709659 )
Everything I've seen says the prices are due to everything except a shortage of fuel. I'd much rather see our elected officials do something about the profiteering and inflation that's going on rather put another bandaid on the wrong finger again.I've NEVER seen a car come from the factory that couldn't be improved.....
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06-28-2008 06:46 AM #2
I vote yes. It would save gas but even more important, this whole country is just wound too tight and needs to relax and enjoy the journey.
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06-28-2008 06:54 AM #3
there is a good side to going back to 55 , getting T-boned by a soccer mommy yaking on a cell phone at 55 is better than 90..
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Kenny
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06-28-2008 07:22 AM #4
Did they ever determine if during that 55 mph period we REALLY saved any gas??
I think the prices alone will save gas and lives. People are definitely driving a whole lot less., I'm seeing a real reduction in the amount of cars on the road lately. Also seeing a lot less huge SUV type cars too, it seems.
Guy at the gas pumps yesterday with an F350 Ford pickup was telling me it costs over $ 150 now to fill his truck, and it lasts him 3 days.
Don
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06-28-2008 07:46 AM #5
There was a lot of debate over whether it really saved any fuel. Thinking from an aerodynamic point it would seem that more energy would be needed to break the air, so it's theoretically conceivable. How much though from 55 to say 65 is probably a small amount to measure, especially on modern computer controlled cars with overdrive that are more efficient at highway speeds.
The other canard they used to sell that idea was "55 saves lives". Traffic fatalities have been falling fairly steadily since the last 55 edict was killed. Statistics "should" kill that "saves lives" argument, but then............we are dealing in logic there instead of politicseese. The lowering of traffic deaths is more likely due to a combination of measures; airbags, better designed cars, enforcement of seatbelt useage and stronger enforcement of nailing drunk drivers. A little more hypothetically would be less of a differential in speed from one vehicle to another. My recollection is that when "most" folks were doing 55 you still had those who wanted to do the "old" limit. They ended up doing a lot of weaving in an out. That still happens today at higher speeds, but seems less to me............but then I don't drive 20-30k miles a year like I used to either.Last edited by Bob Parmenter; 06-28-2008 at 08:04 AM.
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06-28-2008 07:54 AM #6
Yes driving 55 MPH saves gas. My wife's 2006 Chrysler Mini Van gets 32 MPG @ 55 mph and 26 MPG @ 70 MPH.
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06-28-2008 08:03 AM #7
I do know one thing, during those 55 mph days any trip on an interstate was a looooooooong, boring one.
Don
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06-28-2008 08:26 AM #8
I agree with that Don, I had just bought a new 74 Monte Carlo, driving 55 was almost like walking after driving a 72 Camaro 80 plus.
Richard
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06-28-2008 10:13 AM #9
Here comes all that falling asleep at the wheel again,to help the crash statistics..........Its gunna take longer than u thought and its gunna cost more too(plan ahead!)
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06-28-2008 10:15 AM #10
I think a combination of things will happen and already is happening. The days of the Super Size Me cars is fading. There will always be a market for them, but it will be with consious thought. SUV's still are the number one vehicle on the road, along with mini vans here in northern california. We actually bought a small one (2 wheel drive Toyota Highlander, with 4 cyl) which is a Camry chasis with a box thrown on top. It gets decent milage for it's size, about 22-27mpg depending on use, but it's the weight of the vehicle that has always concerned me. It takes a lot more distance to stop than my small truck, or any car I've driven. When you have to jam the brakes on at speed, the antilocking action takes over, and gives you an outta control feeling.
I agree with Don, getting T boned at 55 is better than 80mph!
What we are starting to see here, is lots of small commuter car purchases. My friends with two kids who insisted they needed a Ford Expedition to tote all their stuff, now have 3 kids, and drive a 4 door Mazda, that seems to work just fine for them, and gets about twice the gas milage!
Like the 70's when we had to buy gas on certain days, the muscle cars took a back seat to the Hondas and VW rabbits. Once gas was more availible, those cars faded away.
I also agree with the fact that everybody seems in such a damb hurry all the time. It's infectious! You hop in the car to run some errands, and next thing you know your ten miles over the speed limit, with some rubbernecker pissing everyone off to the point of road rage. I'm afraid if the speed limit does go down, road rage will get worse as will right lane passing. Here we have a really stupid law on the books that makes it legal to split lanes on a motorcycle. I ride a motorcycle and can tell you, this one law makes the car road rage against bikes even worse! It also causes accidents and fatalities.
I just hope that somewhere in all of this, my hot rod will have a future to stretch it's wings and be legal!" "No matter where you go, there you are!" Steve.
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06-28-2008 03:32 PM #11
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06-28-2008 04:40 PM #12
It's just amazing to me that so many people can't figure out for themselves that if they slow down they'll save gas..... I went to Sioux Falls the other day for a doctor's appointment, 50 miles each way. Speed limit on the interstate is 75, I ran 65 as did a lot of other cars.... Most everyone who was out in the right lane still hammering on it were the big SUV's and the full size pickups, many of them are still running 80 and bitchin' about how much fuel costs!!!!! Idjuts....
Just a dang shame that some people will have to wait for the government to mandate the 55 mph crap again when all they would have to do is back off a bit and save some fuel voluntarily.... Sometimes I gotta wonder, maybe we are just getting what we deserve.....Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
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06-28-2008 06:08 PM #13
Originally Posted by Dave Severson
And on truckers. I do have compassion for their economics but there are a lot of real jerks driving trucks, they tailgate and cut lanes like a high school girl in a Honda. And what's up with that setting on the floor look, I saw one today and all there was visible was his cap and sunglasses. Is that like some trucker coolness I missed out on?
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06-28-2008 06:20 PM #14
It's a bunch of crap. My 1 ton truck gets its best at 80 mph, right at the base of the torque curve in OD on the 454.
I think this does make sense if you study torque-speed curves on ICE's.
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06-28-2008 08:21 PM #15
The one thing nobody has brought up is the fact that there is NO fuel shortage!! There is PLENTY of gas and oil out there. The prices are being driven up by demand and the speculators. So drive 55 if you want, (and I agree it saves you gas) but dont push it down my throat.....I enjoy doing the 70 mph speed limit and then some. When I cant afford to pay for the gas, I will self impose a lower speed, but I dont need or want big brother telling me I have to do 55......
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