Haven't heard back from the "cookie customer". Sometimes guys go into sticker shock when they see what an automated machine with PLC controls really costs, and I never hear from them again. If its a machine shop wanting to build a machine for a customer, then fine, they just pass the design costs on to the customer. However if its a guy who wants a machine built for his own use, and he has to eat the costs himself, quite often I put in a preliminary cost estimate, along with an estimated design cost, and they dissapear, just like magic!!!