After reading through the replies, there is a common thread through out. Someone shows their car, someone receives a snide remark, ( and it wasn't likely deserved) someones feelings were hurt, and then to exact revenge, and feel better, the same thing is then dished out to the next guy. None of it is right, but dickheads will be dickheads. The people who are ready to pull back and quit the scene for awhile are trying to stay on the high road and not perpetuate the situation farther. At least that's my take on it. There has been a large influx of new (and younger) people involved. Could be they just don't realise it's not required they whizz in the other guys cornflakes to make themselve's feel important. Hopefully, they grow up, or get lost. What's the real answer? Darned if I know. I like all cars, I like this site, and I hope the people that are in a bit of a funk, can rise about it and get back the feeling for their ride and enjoy it. Leave the dweebs and dorks to themselves, they deserve each other. If this sermon helped, please feel free to leave a little something in the collection plate. Sniper.