Thread: rifles whats your preference?

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I hunt deer with a .54 Hawken repro, and an 1861 Enfield carbine, .58 cal., in black powder season. Fun, but dirty.

Just looked at what I still have---a remington 22 pump, ruger 10/22 auto, 8mm polish Mauser, Argentine 7.65 mauser(pre 1900 parade piece),a 308 Winchester I built with an FN supreme action and Douglas barrel, a winchester 300 mag

In Shotguns---JC Higgins 16 ga pump from mid 1950s, Stevens bolt 16, Belgian Browning 3 inch 20 ga magnum and matching 12 ga magnum
sold off all my Belgium Browning superposed over unders had 3 of them and then they started making them in Japan---a guy just had to have them

remington 270 w/scope in black (took out a deer at 300yrds), winchester 12Ga pump black, and my grandpa's world war 2 38 colt semi auto black(grandpa was in a navy sub no rifles just pistols), are my favorites i only like black and once in a while silver don't care much for wood stocks unless its old and worthe $.

No guns for me!!!!!! I'm still a convicted felon from a drug conviction in 1978 and not to be trusted with weapons!!!!! Being the law abiding citizen that I am, of course I have none!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

No guns for me!!!!!! I'm still a convicted felon from a drug conviction in 1978 and not to be trusted with weapons!!!!! Being the law abiding citizen that I am, of course I have none!!!!!!

So what does your wife shoot.

I don't know, since I got into this hotrod thing mid summer last year I have hardly touched my guns, I finally went during the Christmas holiday and did some trap and five stand. anyways, favorite.....my 35 whelen ackley improved, built on a 1917 remington. It was a gift from my stepfather, and is a great rifle. the runner up would by my mod 70 375, I've spent some time working on it to make it work for me and therefore like it more. most of my rifles have been at my gunsmiths in MOntana for a couple of years now, I really need to get them back, the only thing is I don't have enough storage space for them so it kinda works for me

Red
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Funny this topic on rifles is on here, I have been thinking the last few days about getting into cowboy action shooting. like I need another hobby, especially a pricey one.

Tango- 7.62x39- AKs and 5.56- M-16 may have consequently killed lots of humans but they were designed to WOUND. When you have wounded you tie up all sorts of numbers of people recoverng, giving 1st aid, transporting to the rear, staffing field hospitals and such.

Wounding is one of the primary goals in battle because it saps the enemy's resources both human and material. The act of retrieving of wounded provides the enemy yet another opportunity to engange you on a disproportionate basis while you're distracted with the guys down.

It's the prime reason we have full metal jacket ball ammo. In any caliber in any army it seeks to accomplish the same task, to wound. An M-1 in .30-06 or a Mauser K98 in 7.92 mm in WW II would put a clean hole through your enemy's shoulder causing blood loss but not death. And we're back to wounded individuals drawing upon resources again.

5.56x45mm (.223 cal) or 7.62x39mm are not good large game rounds where the object is to stop with one shot. It doesn't mean they can't in the right circumstances but they do not have a proven history of repeatedly doing so. You don't want to wound a large animal an have to trek after it for what may end up being many miles and then attempt to haul it out.= if you find it befre dark at all.

Remember you can only load 5 rounds in most locales for large game so there's no spraying and praying. .223 and AK short rounds is what I'd say use for prarie dogs, racoons, bobcats, coyotes. For deer, elk, bear and other big stuff I'd use a full size cartridge behind a .30 caliber or 8mm Mauser round. For regions like some of the wide open Western states a hyperfast 7mm would be better for longer shots at elk.

Again to get back on track, it depends of what and where you're hunting. Brush guns and their game- boars, deer- require heavy slow projectiles that are not diverted by small branches and twigs like very fast rounds are. If you have ever really been in heavily wooded and thick brush area you know that you may not even get a look at the whole of your target and have to fire with partial view, past a dozen trees and bushes to hit what's back there.

Old Marlins, Winchesters, Savages and similar 30-30 "cowboy" lever actions are fine brush guns.

While 5.56 and 7.62x39 or any light, fast round fired singly will have dubious percentages of success they do the job when fired in volleys in full auto at military targets. Don't expect the kill of an animal with one round if it takes several to mow down vegetation and ultimately kill a man in the same terrain.

Literally any rifle with any mechanism with a full case size around .30 cal. will make hits in more open terrain at decent ranges. Only if you have money to burn do you want to get an African caliber firearm.

.....well the most fun gun I've ever owned is my simi auto Ruger 10/22 with a 25 round magazine. $9 bucks for 500 rounds! 'plunk/plunk' all day long! Then for a 'belly gun' it's my Derranger with a 2 1/2" barrel that shoots 410 shoot gun shells. But for real self defence it's my Mossburg 590 8 shot 12 gauge with the 18 1/2" barrel...... Yeah, you can never be too rich, too thin or own too many guns ........

Twitch The type 56 SKS with a 20-1/2" barrel firing a 762X39 123 grain soft point round can take a deer up to 100 yards . Also the 762x39 can match the 30-30s energy at 100 and 200 yards . But if I do go Deer hunting . I will use the Springfield 1903-A3 in 30-06 with 165 grain reloads . Or for Deer in heavy brush I would use the Marlin lever-action in 45-70 with 300 grain reloads . That will put them down in there tracks . COOL

Or for Deer in heavy brush I would use the Marlin lever-action in 45-70 with 300 grain reloads

- no twigs are gonna deflect that one!!!

My cousin had a Mod 94 (or Marlin?) lever action in 45-70. I never shot it.
I've also heard that, is it a .35 Marlin, is a good brush gun but I'm not too familiar with the cartridge, but I'm thinking low velocity and heavy bullet.

For plinking a Ruger 10/22, for varmint hunting a Remington 22/250 Varminter w/ a Redfield 3/9 scope, for deer and elk a Marlin 30-30. For dealing with people that really do not like you a pair of ma duece.

Originally Posted by SBC

- no twigs are gonna deflect that one!!!

My cousin had a Mod 94 (or Marlin?) lever action in 45-70. I never shot it.
I've also heard that, is it a .35 Marlin, is a good brush gun but I'm not too familiar with the cartridge, but I'm thinking low velocity and heavy bullet.

the 35 Marlin fires the 35 Remington cartridge . It's velocity and energy in not much different then a 30-30 . But it's larger / heavier bullet will make a more severe wound . This would make the 35 Remington a better deer or bear hunting cartridge . Here are the bullet Diameters ( 30-30) is .308 and (35Rem) is .358 Yes this would be a good brush Gun .

Keltec has a fold - up in .40 or 9mm which is classified as a pistol, but it dam sure is a short barrel rifle. Uses 30 round clips. I plan to get one in .40 and expect it to be a total hoot to shoot.

Originally Posted by firebird77clone

Keltec has a fold - up in .40 or 9mm which is classified as a pistol, but it dam sure is a short barrel rifle. Uses 30 round clips. I plan to get one in .40 and expect it to be a total hoot to shoot.

Is this the one?

My grandfather left my brothers and me several interesting antiques (Winchester model 12, An 1889 Colt 38-40 Military model pistol (38 cal./40 grains of black powder), and a couple of others, but the one I like is a 30-40 Krag (30 caliber/40 grains of smokeless). The Krag was used in the Spanish American war.

I don't hunt and I don't get to the range very often, but when I do the Krag attracts a heck of a lot of attention. It's long as a hoe handle and has stock all the way to the end of the barrel. It is very accurate (a heck of a lot more accurate than I am) and ammunition is available, but take your billfold with you when you go to buy some!

Jim