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    I'm sure this is the pic your talking about. I love it!
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    Yep, that's the pic. It made me check Wikipedia about the history of the Scout, and I was surprised to see that they indeed had a longer wheelbase model, but yours looked like the shorty. It's going to be a fun ride around Doon unless you decide to leave it in Kansas sometime....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rspears View Post
    Yep, that's the pic. It made me check Wikipedia about the history of the Scout, and I was surprised to see that they indeed had a longer wheelbase model, but yours looked like the shorty. It's going to be a fun ride around Doon unless you decide to leave it in Kansas sometime....
    It definitely rides like a shorty but it's worth the look. There are some overload springs in the back that someone clamped up tight against the others, I don't think that is helping. I'm not sure how far we'll stretch it's legs once I trust it enough for a road trip. Sounds like I better pull the keys if it makes it to Kansas ��
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    My father worked for General Telephone in Southern California in the fifties and up through 1966(?). He was responsible for central offices in Crestline and Lake Arrowhead and GTE issued him a brand new International Scout 800 with a turbocharged four cylinder. It was pretty basic but I remember that it had electric windshield wipers, a heater, and GTE installed seat belts! It had military style tires and it really did pretty well in the snow. Gutless as far as speed, but never had an issue riding up and over some pretty deep snow. GTE also had International upgrade the electrical to include a huge battery and an alternator as the Johnson Messenger II radio were still tube based and required lots of power. It was recommended to leave the Scout idling at short stops to allow radio operation and dad left her running when he filled up at Marty’s 76 station!

    Neat little rig – so cool you found one and are keeping it alive!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 53 Chevy5 View Post
    It definitely rides like a shorty but it's worth the look. There are some overload springs in the back that someone clamped up tight against the others, I don't think that is helping. I'm not sure how far we'll stretch it's legs once I trust it enough for a road trip. Sounds like I better pull the keys if it makes it to Kansas ��
    Looks like the longer 118 WB wasn't until '76. From the Wiki History -
    The Terra and Traveler were produced from 1976 to 1980. Terras and Travelers had fiberglass tops; half-cab for the Terra or full top with hatchback-type liftgate on the Traveler. Most notably different, these models were extended by 18 in (46 cm) in the region between the door and the front of the rear wheel well.
    I've always liked the Scout. A high school friends dad bought one around '64, bright red. Not much for speed, but would just about climb trees!! I can see one lifted a bit riding on 33's or even 35's being very cool for running around!! I'd probably have to lose my Jeep, and probably need to lose the roadster!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rspears View Post
    Looks like the longer 118 WB wasn't until '76. From the Wiki History -

    I've always liked the Scout. A high school friends dad bought one around '64, bright red. Not much for speed, but would just about climb trees!! I can see one lifted a bit riding on 33's or even 35's being very cool for running around!! I'd probably have to lose my Jeep, and probably need to lose the roadster!!
    I have 31's on mine and I think that's as tall as we're going to go. The goal is it to be Kari's daily driver, any taller and she would need a ladder Lol.It sure is fun to bomb around in and it starts a conversation every where it goes
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    Quote Originally Posted by glennsexton View Post
    My father worked for General Telephone in Southern California in the fifties and up through 1966(?). He was responsible for central offices in Crestline and Lake Arrowhead and GTE issued him a brand new International Scout 800 with a turbocharged four cylinder. It was pretty basic but I remember that it had electric windshield wipers, a heater, and GTE installed seat belts! It had military style tires and it really did pretty well in the snow. Gutless as far as speed, but never had an issue riding up and over some pretty deep snow. GTE also had International upgrade the electrical to include a huge battery and an alternator as the Johnson Messenger II radio were still tube based and required lots of power. It was recommended to leave the Scout idling at short stops to allow radio operation and dad left her running when he filled up at Marty’s 76 station!

    Neat little rig – so cool you found one and are keeping it alive!
    That's a great story about your dad's. I didn't know they offered a turbo on them, that's pretty awesome! I've heard the early Scouts were no power house, but they were the first on the market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 53 Chevy5 View Post
    That's a great story about your dad's. I didn't know they offered a turbo on them, that's pretty awesome! I've heard the early Scouts were no power house, but they were the first on the market.
    The Scout was developed to compete with the Jeep CJ, which was pretty much all alone as a rugged off-road capable vehicle. When IH brought out the Scout, Jeep updated to the CJ-5 in '64 and produced them in a bunch of formats until '87 when the YJ took over. Ford jumped in with the original Bronco in '66 and built them to '96.
    Jeep was the lone rugged off-road vehicle for a long time, but then IH brought the Scout, Ford followed with the Bronco and Chevy with the Blazer. Yours is a piece of the early history!!!
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    Check out the wiki page on the Scout, I had no idea about the turbo 4 either as well as a lot of other variations over the years. Quite a few different engines .

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    Quote Originally Posted by v8nutz View Post
    Check out the wiki page on the Scout, I had no idea about the turbo 4 either as well as a lot of other variations over the years. Quite a few different engines .
    I've read that was one of the things that brought IH down on their truck / automotive side. There was way too many options so nothing was streamlined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rspears View Post
    The Scout was developed to compete with the Jeep CJ, which was pretty much all alone as a rugged off-road capable vehicle. When IH brought out the Scout, Jeep updated to the CJ-5 in '64 and produced them in a bunch of formats until '87 when the YJ took over. Ford jumped in with the original Bronco in '66 and built them to '96.
    Jeep was the lone rugged off-road vehicle for a long time, but then IH brought the Scout, Ford followed with the Bronco and Chevy with the Blazer. Yours is a piece of the early history!!!
    Oh yeah, how could I forget about the Jeep , they were definitely the first. It is kind of cool driving something that has an IH emblem on it. When I bought it I thought for sure sometime I would put a complete 4.8 or 5.3 4x4 drivetrain in it, but this thing runs like a sewing machine it's kind of cool when you pop the hood to see international on the valve covers. It probably cost me 10 miles to the gallon and 100hp vs the 5.3 but it's cool lol.
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    That's a very nice piece of Binder history. My brother had a friend that had one with a nissan diesel. I wouldn't mind having one of them but they have quite the following and the price reflects it.
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    Thought I'd give you an update on the money pit aka Scout. The first order of business was fixing the brakes , the left front was working better than any others. After bleeding them the others worked better but not great, after further investigating, 3 out of the 4 cylinders had one piston stuck on them so I ordered 4 new cylinders and new shoes all the way around. I sent the drums to get reground, the back ones were grooved, the fronts looked ok but I wanted a fresh start. I got a call back and he told me they were all junk, they have all been cut too far already. I ordered new drums for the back and the old front brakes and drums went back on the front because the new front brakes that came were wrong anyway and the old brakes looked pretty good yet. That's when the master cylinder started leaking so it got one of them too. Time to bleed brakes again, right front brake hose is collapsed so poor flow is going to the left front brake and a rear line is now leaking because it apparently was just about rubbed through and it didn't like the stress of putting on the new cyl. ( lines are ordered now ) Next was the radiator which had a small leak but turned into several bad leaks.
    I got a new Champion radiator which went in without incident. I noticed it had 3/4 heater hoses on 5/8 ports so I swapped them out for the right size hose.
    I cleaned the carb out which helped tremendously for the stumbling problem it had, and I went on to check the timing. I unplugged the vacuum advance and I heard no engine change, so I blew in the VA pot in it went through like a straw and I also noticed the weights were all gummed up stuck. A new VA pot is $100 wherever you look for these things so I ended up buying a new electronic dist with wires and a coil from Hamilton Fuel injection for $250 shipped. Its pretty much an Excell dist made to fit an IH. It's a great company with unbelievable support. I've called there 4 times for various different questions and the owner Bill answers every time. I have the timing adjusted to 6 initial 16 with the advanced plugged in and 35 all in. I'm wondering if 35 is pushing it so that may have to get put down a bit, we'll see.
    Next was the leaf spring bushings, these were unbelievably bad. I got some new ones from Energy Suspension and it all went pretty good except for I had to drill out all the center bushing sleeves to accept a 7/16 bolt. I also noticed the front shock mount holes on the leaf springs were loose and the holes were egged out very bad. I took the bracket off and welded up the hole round again, and then also found out the nice looking shocks were also bad.
    When I filled it up with fuel earlier I found that the fuel tank leaks when it is full, and when I looked underneath I seen 3 JB weld patches on the tank which looked like they've been on there a long time so I ordered a new plastic tank for it as well which has not been put in yet. I'll do that and the rear leaf spring bushings at the same time.
    So far I'm in at $1000 more than I thought and way more work to get this thing back on the road but it is 51 years old and has not been kept up for the last several years so its getting to be a lot to tackle right away but I think it's getting closer. In a weird way its a good feeling giving this old girl another chance at life. Saturday there is a IH Scout/Truck/Pickup meet I'd like to go to where I bought it so it's going to be a lets start it up and see it it'll make it a 100 miles kind of day
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40FordDeluxe View Post
    You can do it!
    Now I want to watch Waterboy lol
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