Gotta agree with Whiplash..The grille shell sits where you want it..It looks good,and I have always liked a 32 grille shortened,on a T bucket,or an A..just finishes off that channeled look..:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiplash23T
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Gotta agree with Whiplash..The grille shell sits where you want it..It looks good,and I have always liked a 32 grille shortened,on a T bucket,or an A..just finishes off that channeled look..:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiplash23T
Update: I got the body skinned. It still requires a little finish welding in some spots. The door will need some rod welded to the edge to get the gap where I want. But all in all I think it's looking ok. I had intended to run a bead the length of the body somewhere near the door top, but got skittish. I wasn't sure I could run a nice even and straight bead, and I used all but a 6" x 24" piece of the 4' x 10' sheet. I'll have to get some more for the panels below the bed. I caped the sides and back of the cab with some top bed rail salvaged from 66 Chevy bed sides. This gave it a nice finished look and I spaced the lip away from the inside so the upholstery panels fit behind them. Still have to fill a couple of holes and cap the ends at the door though.
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I also earlier got the drive shaft tunnel finished. I sliced down a couple more freon jugs and it made a nice looking tunnel.
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Welded 3/8" shoulder nuts into the frame to mount body to. Mounts thru sill which is 1/8" thick.
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Also got the battery carrier welded in.
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Here's a better shot of the grill shell, so you can see the relation in height to the cowl.
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And last is a panel I made with the bead roller. I'm uncertain as weather to use this or not yet. It still needs a little hammer and dolly work. My father hung this nick name on me at the age of 5 and it stuck till I was almost 18. I thought since it was a dinky pickup............. well you get the idea.
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And I know someone is looking at this. A little feedback would really be appreciated. I'm a little unsure on the look, thus far, and would like some honest feedback. I know the bed looks high, but that will be made better when the side and rear panels are in place below the bed. They will probably cover the kick up notch for the axle and then run about the axle center line to rear. The rear pan will have some aux, brake-turn sig, lights across the lower rear.
Its all looking great mate, although i'm a little unsure of the tailgate, i think it would be better plain.
Yup,,plain is better..The rest looks okay though..Quote:
Originally Posted by roadster32
I would disagree! I like the tailgate as shown, gives it character and special meaning! And the bed being a bit higher also gives it a different look. If you were to lower it, go just a little bit! Don't make it look like all the others! Back on page 5 you asked us to grunt once in a while, so I just did! Hope it was ok that I did?
Thanks for sharing the pics and your time.
I like it. Nice job on the metal body too.
All is good. I'm torn on the tailgate. I guess I'll finish the letters and decide. If I do it, I'll probably use rivets, and not weld into tailgate. I like the bed top even with the cab top. Just overall it looks kinda high. But again once the lower panels are fabed up and installed it should change the look again. I did want a , at least slightly, different look, but sometimes the disadvantage to that is looking at others and those being different than yours you start to second guess yourself. And although I think I have a vision, it gets kinda fuzzy sometimes. And sometimes the vision is great, but then the beer wears off............:LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by 34_40
And Grunt all ya want.............:D
Thanks. Some of this, mostly sheet metal work, is a first for me. So I have been mostly pleased with myself. There are a couple of F'd up spots, and they kinda bug me but I AIN'T telling where they are.............:LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by stovens
All very good points! I agree that the lower panels will change the view, but as it sits right now? I like your vision!Quote:
Originally Posted by dlotraf33
There, I just grunted again! You do realize you may have created a monster right? LOL..
Okay,you say you want honesty so here is my 2cents worth then you can shoot me. I like the side profile from the drivers side,the rear tailgate is all good,the grille is the correct height, but, yes now the but, the side door needs to be redesigned sadly. It would look better if it was deeper and I realize it is a big job to change now but I think it would be worth the extra time involved to get right. Oh yes we are all getting old and we do require all the help in getting in and out of our toys,so don't do away with the door altogether,but see if you can improve it a bit please.:D
My 2 cents worth, leave the tailgate the way it is and as Whiplash mentioned, drop the door down.
It's not a question of what it would take to re-do the door, its function over form. The door at all is a compromise. The reason it doesnt go all the way down is I do not want to sacrifice the lower DOM side bar. Which is right about at bumper height. I realize it doesnt look the best with the partial door. Hopefully with tight door gaps and paint it won't look like a festering boil on the side..........:LOL: There probably is some other way to do it and get the strenth I want but I spent a couple months pondering this, and this was in my capabilities. So I will conceede it kinda looks wierd. I don't really like it, but I'll have to live with it. I just won't look at the passenger side................:LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiplash23T
And Whip, I appreciate the honesty. But if it wasn't a little ugly I wouldn't know it was mine.....:LOL:
If I had any real idea how to spell it out the Tim Allen grunt would be here, ______________..............:DQuote:
Originally Posted by 34_40
RRrrrrr, RRrrrrr, RRrrrrrr.... I've seen it this way before.. :LOL:**):DQuote:
Originally Posted by dlotraf33
Yeah, that sounds about right...........:LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by 34_40
Tim allen grunts
http://youtu.be/BAhVmjptZMI
Wish there is an easy way to embed video, nothing seems to work?
Here is a great compilation of all of Tim's accidents on tool time(about 7 minutes worth) It had me in stitches, he did slapstick well!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ9Xk0Lln5Y&NR=1
Okay I understand about the side intrusion bar for safety. What if you lowered the pipe bar down to almost floor level and used the curvature of it as the finishing sill/or rocker panel as you guys call them,then with a deeper door have a side intrusion bar across the middle of it at bumper height. With good hinges and anti burst proof bear-claw catch it would still give you the safety you require. I'm just thinking out loud here as even I laughed at your ugly comment.:LOL:
That was GREAT.................... Still makes me sick though when they drop that beam on that Nomad.Quote:
Originally Posted by stovens
Yeah I thought of that. If I had a tube bender there might be some different things I'd do. But I'm still thinking it over. The door does have an 1 5/8 DOM bar in the center, with upper and lower frame of door made from 1 1/2 .120 wall box. I'm not even sure the door on pass side period is going to make it that easy for me to get in. Got to put the column and shifter back in and try it out. It's gonna really piss me off if I went to that trouble and it ends up being useless to me. My Daughter on the other hand, well thats a different story...................... Well nothing is ever set in stone......................Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiplash23T
Your nickname on the tailgate will make the ladies giggle, but it'll be a good confidence check.
If you dropped the bed so that the upper rolled side bead was visually at about the top of the tire, then it would look better, and the proportions of the planned skirt to the bedside height would work better.
To get the door to work/look better the only thing I can think of is to drop the skin down with a light supporting framework behind it. That way you can leave the inner member (nothing to do with the tailgate) at bumper height and still have a more pleasing visual when the door is closed.
I think if you didn't want to mess with the bed height, then you could change the look of the back of the cab with a couple of small raised roll bars behind each seat. Just a thought, but I think it would breakup the line of the tail gate and the back of the cab. Either way lowering the bed, or raising the cab a little will set it off better. I also like Bob's idea of extending the skin on the door, to cover the break in the side. On my 48 truck, they did something very similar, where the door goes all the way down the side on the outside, but is just a thin double wall going past the inner frame for the last few inches.
It is going to get a roll bar, although a single loop inside the bed against ft panel. I didn't want to keep the headrests originally but they have kinda grown on me. It won't be long and I'll start shooting some primer, finished the welds on bed yesterday. A little to go on bed, rear sill and ft stake pockets. Anyway once it's got some primer on it, I'm sure I will have a better Idea of what it will look like. Now it's just squint so it all looks the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by stovens
Yeah Bob, I hadn't even thought of it in that particular way.................. Might be reason enough to toss it. :LOL: As to the bed, again I'm torn. I wanted a somewhat functional bed. At present height I still loose 3" of bed height. Although I have considered redesigning the rear suspension so that I need less kick up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter
Well it's been a few weeks since the last update, so here goes. Alot of little bits and so forth, not much pic worthy. But we slung a little body filler and some paint.
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Hopefully the last time the body meets the frame.
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Almost forgot this one. I made some rear protection for fuel tank and bat. I sleved some 3" holes for aux brake/turn lites. I have some A style lights to go on sides of bed but wanted some extra lites to get the attention of the cell phone a-holes. Yeah I have been hit in the rear before, 6 or 7 times, twice turning and the rest at a dead stop. I am gonna use some of those kinda bee hive style clearence lites. Single filiment. If I can mount like I think I can they should look suspended and floating in the holes. Also welded some bumber brackets on. Will make a knerf style bumber that circles the lights.
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The bed skirts will fill the area between the lites and the bottom of the bed.
Progress looks great! Extra brake lights always a good idea!
Needed to get firewall in place before cab can be bolted in place, have to raise front of cab to get toe board under ft of main floor. So I thought I'd take the opportunity to place the tank on and some goodies for a peek. The gauges are just a couple of junk gauges and are just sitting in holes. If it doesn't show they are dimpled died, so they are recessed. Not sure if I want checker board around gauges, maybe solid color in oval 1/4" or so from the edge of dimple, maybe............????? Anyway I needed a little inspiration so I thought I'd take a couple of shots for show and tell. I went with 1" checkers, like the look of larger ones, but with the tank/firewall flange it probably would look like pooky. I saw a 28/29 with 1", and as flange is just under an inch you get a nice pattern no mater what angle you look at it. The flange doesn't pop out at you, well not that much. I have a color scheme in mind, the grill shell will be red as most of the cowl flowing into some scallops down the sides of the cab.
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Now if you noticed that the white on the tank is slightly yellowed............. Well don't mention it. If I like the look will have to repaint upper portion. Don't know what happened, maybe it was too hot, but the clear yellowed on me. I didn't really notice it until it was next to the lower portion. I thought it was just lighting or my eyes. To say I was perturbed would be an understatement. It was a pain to mask, and I'll have to start all over, I'd never get the black masked off properly.
Also one of the little things was to finish off the steering box. You can see I welded a short collar to the top plate so it would hold a lip seal. The original fill plug said heavy gear oil, so I greased all bearing and gears when I put it together and pumped it maybe 1/4 full of grease and the rest with 85/140 gear oil. I drilled and tapped a 1/4 npt fill at what is now the top of the box.
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I like that alot man and I will have to take back my comment on the door as with panel fit and paint it does look better. I like the firewall also and the red,keep at it sir.
Very nice build. Looks great,You should be proud. Thanks for the info on my build.
Thanks Whip, I will try. As for the door, not to ignore yours or anyone else's sugestions, but I just didn't think I had the tools or tallent to do anything else. With the exception of a more std height door, without my dom side bar. I decided to cut the gap to about a 1/16", and I may have an additional trick, if I am lucky, with the placement of one of the scallops that might further camafloge the lower gap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiplash23T
So I haven't heard, or missed it. How are your knees comming along?
Thanks Jim, sometimes I do feel pretty good about it. I just went back and looked at your steering. I suppose you want power steering, due to wheel size and such, you need to find something that will allow the pitman arm to point down. The only possible way I see that box working would be mounted below frame rail, and with parallel leaf springs thats out. You could go cross steer if there is room for the box towards the front of the engine on the inside of frame rail. I'll look at a saginaw box I have, power, it might mount in a similar manner and have pitman arm pointed down. I'll let you know what I discover.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim63
Tkanks for takin the time. What do you think of my idea of the gears under the dash? (to reverse direction on shaft to steer box). Do you have any pics of the truck in the back ground of you bucket? That one looks cool also.
Checkers look just right. I second Whip's comments!
Slung a little more paint this week. I don't know what the friggen tanks problem is. First the clear yellowed on the checkers. Then the red did some funky stuff. Only on the tank. Cowl cheeks and scallops turned out good. Well except for the stupid tape lifted a small patch of paint from door. But thats easy to fix. At least it wasn't directly next to the red. The tank and cheeks are all bolted together, cab bolted to frame, and I ain't gonna take it apart again! I will address the tank, or now cowl top in place. Any tape lines will be in body seams so clear will bury them. I added some chrome do dads on the cowl. They look a little crooked in the pics, but they are just sitting in the holes. They came off the rear lower quarters of a 62 ford galaxie. I thought they would look kinda cool. Originally flat, is persuaded a curve in them with a wood block and several light taps with a small rubber mallet. The follow the curve of the cowl nicely. They have to be cleaned up and the black repainted though. I'm kinda like Steve (Roadster32), like my shinny stuff. I just can't whip up the stuff he can. I just re purpose it..............:D
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The scallops will have a black outline, about 3/8" wide. I haven't decided on weather to outline by hand or mask and spray. I have all the brushes and lettering enamel. I did some large letters and they came out ok...... I'll practice some more and decide. Once the dash is painted I'll post a shot of that. The red flows over the top and follows the curve of the dash and curves onto the door top to the top scallop on the side.
That is looking cool and yes the scallops do do that little magic trick that you wanted. Thanks for asking about my knees,second knee replacement happens on the 29th August so am counting down to that. My rehab on the left leg has gone really well and it is my right leg stopping progress now so I will have that sorted so. I am so looking forward to going back to work again and earning some money to be able to complete the few changes on the bucket so that I can use it again over our summer. I will not have it finished to where I wanted it but I have missed it so much I want to be able to use it again.
Hey that's looking really good, Keep them updates coming please.
Thanks. It was so danged hot yesterday afternoon, but I still managed the heat to sit and stare for awhile. I have the benefit of the pictures to not show all my flaws and failings. But I still am mostly pleased. Remember this is only the second one I have built and am still learning, mostly what I can't do......:LOL: Glad to hear you will be back at it soon, even if slowly. When I tore my knee up I couldn't do much. I got determined enough to find stuff I could do sitting on one of those low roll around seats. Gained about 30 lbs that I still have not gotten rid of............:LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiplash23T
Thanks. I have been keeping track of the Willys, though I have not posted much. This place has got frustrating. And they did somthing over the weekend and now the smileys are overlapping the text window............GRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrr...........:mad: I should have more pic worthy stuff soon. Not All of us can make that little bracket or fitting look so good that it deserves it's own thread..........:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by roadster32
